An interview with Simon Clark by Matt Williams
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Sequels aren't always the most exciting of prospects. Occasionally though along comes a follow-up which does justice to the original, and in some case, even surpasses it. Recent examples include Stephen Baxter's authorised sequel to H.G. Wells' The Time Machine, The Time Ships - and now, there's The Night of the Triffids by Simon Clark, the sequel to John Wyndham's 1951 novel, The Day of the Triffids. Having already established himself as a fine horror novelist with a series of powerful and memorable novels which include Vampyrrhic, Nailed by the Heart and The Fall, Clark has taken on the unenviable task of writing a follow-up to Wyndham's SF classic.
The Day of the Triffids described a scenario in which most of the world's population are blinded after watching an unexpected meteorite display the night before. Capitalising on this enormous advantage, large, deadly plants called Triffids converge in their thousands in an attempt to unseat mankind as the dominant species on the planet. Slow but nevertheless extremely dangerous, the plants attempt to take advantage of their incapacitated human adversaries by lashing out with highly toxic stingers from which there is little chance of escape. The story follows the progress of scientist, Bill Masen and his attempt to find a way of defeating the terrible menace before the plants take over the world.
Having already dealt with apocalyptic themes in books like Blood Crazy and King Blood, Clark was familiar with portraying wide scale disaster and its wide-ranging consequences. Which made him the ideal choice of person to write about what might have happened if, twenty-five years later, Bill Masen's son, David had formed a new colony on The Isle of Wight - one which attempts to lay the foundations of a new society as well as trying to eradicate the Triffid menace. Suddenly one morning the grown-up Masen awakes to find that all the light has been bleached from the world. Now he faces the biggest challenge of his life so far: How to defeat the highly dangerous marauding plants, in the dark with much of the world's population blind and helpless. What happens next makes for one of the most entertaining novels of recent years…
I wondered at which point Clark's admiration for The Day of the Triffids coalesced into an ambition to write the sequel. Did he receive the official backing of the Wyndham family estate? 'It was probably around three years ago that I had the idea,' says the author. 'I'd travelled by train to Bath through the pouring rain. It had been an odyssey as much as a journey. Flooded railway lines held up trains; overflowing rivers drowned towns; then the express train was hit by a bird, causing so much damage we had to stop for repairs. Wyndham was near obsessed by the fragility of civilisation - that it doesn't take much for it all to start unravelling. Brits only have to think back to the petrol blockades of few months ago when the filling stations ran dry. On the train I started thinking about The Day of the Triffids; what a hell of a book! And as ideas do a sudden thought took me by surprise: why don't I continue the story of the Triffids and the little band of survivors on the Isle of Wight? To cut a long story short I approached the Wyndham estate, and after reading the completed manuscript they gave their approval.'
There have been a number of books and films in the last few years which cover disaster scenarios. Several of Clark's own novels have dealt with the apocalyptic theme. Does he think the appeal is due to the proximity of the Millennium - or is it perhaps down to a resurgence of 50s nuclear mutation monster flicks like Godzilla?
'Call me obsessed, but I've always had a passion for the apocalyptic story; such as Shute's On The Beach which scared me witless as a kid. Then there were the Wyndham and John Christopher novels, and Terry Nation's TV series Survivors. These and others got into my blood. When I started writing novels the disaster scenarios came into my head and refused to budge until I wrote them down. As for their appeal, you could speculate endlessly about some kind of post World War 2 trauma that we still haven't recovered from, or the Millennium, or the "we're-doomed" stories that the press batter us with relentlessly. But perhaps deep down we're only too aware of not only our own mortality but that of mighty nations, too. In a hundred AD Roman citizens couldn't believe their empire would ever collapse but just a few generations later: Goodnight Vienna. Or should that be goodnight Ravenna? The British Empire was bigger but probably vanished even faster. Maybe we sense that apocalypse might just be around the corner. Like Jung said: "Coming events cast their shadows before."'
What is it that makes Triffids so compelling? Is it because most plants are inanimate (and hence unthreatening) - or is it more primal than that? Perhaps the combination of plant physicality and animal awareness; the 'unnatural-ness' of a moving, stinging, killing plant? A subconscious fear that harmless plant life can suddenly turn on humans, even become the aggressors…
'Arthur Machen said evil could only be identified by its "unatural-ness" - his examples were that if your dog talked to you that was evil; the same could be said if roses sang as you walked in the garden or if the stones beneath your feet started to bleed. Stinging
plants aren't that rare of course but walking, talking, possibly intelligent plants are something else. In the original Triffids novel Wyndham did introduce the plant as a quirky, bovine plant that would be grown for its oil; suburban gardeners cultivated examples at home. So perhaps you have a few elements that are rolled together by Wyndham to create the compelling monster. Firstly its "unatural-ness" and secondly that this normally safe, domesticated plant became man's destroyer.
'There has been a lingering belief in folklore and even science that plants aren't what we expect. That they have something "up their sleeves." Darwin's son, Francis, lectured on this at the Royal Society where he was president, stating that: "It is impossible to know whether or not plants are conscious; but it is consistent with the doctrine of continuity that in all living things there is something psychic, and if we accept this point of view we must believe that in plants there exists a faint copy of what we know as consciousness in ourselves." Of course, does this mean that every time we mow the lawn we become mass-murderers? Maybe not, but if you did hear an apple scream every time you bit into it, it might blunt your appetite somewhat.'
The style of The Night of the Triffids is very much in the 'golden age pulp' tradition. More action-adventure than SF or horror. In terms of style, it's also significantly different than Clark's earlier books. Were there any particular 50s/60s novels or writers that influenced him during the writing of the novel?
'Yes, it does differ from books such as Blood Crazy and Darkness Demands by a country mile. When I was getting into character to write The Night of the Triffids I went on a reading spree of 50s fiction. John Wyndham of course with a good sprinkling of John Christopher and some mainstream by the likes of Leo Walmsley and H.E. Bates. After this reading I worked on fusing a 50s style with my own style to create something of a hybrid. One that I'd be comfortable writing rather than slavish pastiche.'
Night of the Triffids can be read as a good old-fashioned adventure yarn. Yet as in books like Gulliver's Travels or Animal Farm there is also a subtext, one that deals with themes such as overcrowding and overpopulation. The book also allowed Clark to examine exploitation of certain factions of society, the slum areas and genetic manipulation. A deliberate move?
'Hell, yes,' he responds. 'Though I was aiming for a good old-fashioned adventure yarn first and foremost. Always, always, always I intend to write a story that entertains. Of course, along the way I do draw in other threads that might be described as parable or a metaphor for something else. In the past some have described my work as subversive … something that makes me chuckle (in a Vincent Price kind of way, of course!). I think all fiction does contain a subtext, only any author worth his salt shouldn't know what it is. That's for later generations to interpret.'
One of the reasons Clark's post-1950 'Triffid society' is so intriguing is because it's as
fictitious as its plant aggressors. Writing about a world overrun with killer plants required that the author extrapolate from the 50s to present day, taking into account a civilisation deprived of the opportunity to develop relevant technology. The mother houses - places whose sole purpose is to re-populate humankind - are certainly a novel way of solving the population problem! Furthermore, the Triffid threat is turned to society's advantage - conversion into food, fuel etc. Thus some good emerges from the devastation…
'That was certainly an interesting part of writing the book,' reflects Clark, 'imagining what society would be like if "civilisation" had collapsed in 1950. The Isle of Wight being the only substantial part of Britain, indeed the British Empire, to survive. I imagined that the survivors would have fiercely clung onto some of the old social patterns and customs. I imagined that cricket would still be played on the village green, that the pub culture would have remained intact with a few pints of beer downed on a Friday night with the usual pub talk and games of darts. Some elements of culture would have fossilised. There wouldn't be new gramophone recordings and no new films but people would still play their Noel Coward and Arthur Askey records and they'd still have a night out at the pictures. Even though the John Wayne or Will Hay flick would have been something they'd seen dozens of times before.
'And yet societies under pressure respond in a dynamic way; they have to or they go under. One of the key problems I saw facing the survivors would be the sheer lack of human beings. This would be a greater threat to survival even than the Triffid menace. In the past, societies that were confronted with populations dwindling or not growing fast enough developed novel remedies, such as banning contraception, rewarding parents who produced big families, the infamous Nazi "twinning" programmes, or even simply raiding their neighbours on mass kidnapping raids of children and women of child-bearing age. The Mother Houses in The Night of the Triffids are a kind of near-monastic community created for the sole purpose of the unmarried women who've formed them to produce as many children as possible. As for the Triffids being processed for fuel, food and so on this was a return to Wyndham's idea that the triffids were originally a bovine plant that were to be "milked" of their precious oils. I also liked the idea of having to use something that is feared and despised for the benefit of humankind. Something that humans must have faced throughout their history, right from harnessing fire to nuclear energy. It seems all our assets have this "monkey's paw" syndrome and can be as much a curse on us as a benefit. Anyone burning his or her fingers baking an apple pie, or faced with mopping out a flooded home due to global warming can testify to that one.'
Despite the obviously dark (though thankfully, not unredeemable) character of Torrence and his henchmen, the book's overall mood is fairly positive. People grouping together against overwhelming adversity; Bill Mason's generally optimistic outlook (seemingly unshakeable, and conversely made stronger by his discovery of the awful slum areas of the US); the rebel good guys. The narrative doesn't dwell on the negative. Even the blind community have adapted.
'In my fiction I relish throwing terrible disasters and seemingly insurmountable problems at my characters. Then I sit back and see how they climb out of that particular hole. Which is the basis of most fiction when you come to think about it. And yes, it does reflect my own personal beliefs that human beings are capable of overcoming adversity. Of course, they might do it in a terrible way. In famines people have been forced to eat their own children; in wars commanders have resorted to nightmarish practices to win battles. But then ordinary people have become heroes when faced with the direst of straits, so my outlook on the human race is optimistic.'
Are there any further sequels planned? Or is The Night of the Triffids meant to be self-contained?
'I enjoyed writing The Night of the Triffids,' says Clark. 'It was a real pleasure to be able to continue the story. I never intended the novel to be completely self-contained but I've heard from some readers that they enjoyed it even though they've never read the original Wyndham novel.
'Coming in January, 2002, is the unabridged audio version of The Night of the Triffids, running to more than twelve hours, which I can't wait to hear. As for what's next on the agenda: I've just delivered a novel to Leisure, entitled Stranger. After that, I'm starting on a new horror novel for Hodder & Stoughton. I've spent a long time thinking about the execution of this one and intend to use a whole raft of new techniques I've been developing. I want the reader to be able to pick up the book and be drawn into a whole new reading experience.'
Originally appeared in Prism, the British Fantasy Society Newsletter, Spring 2002.
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