..The Family of deLucy in the 12th Century 

Lucé: People and Places

This webpage provides information on the origins of the Lucy surname.

To trace the origins of the Lucy surname, it is necessary to research the records for Richard de Lucy, Justiciar of England, the earliest known member of certainty. He was born around 1110 in Lucé, in the Orné region of Normandy. The place was possibly named after Lucius; an individual who held the area during the Roman occupation. This was originally a barony which included 19 fiefs or stronghouses, located at Lucé, La Baroche, Saint-Front, and Avrilly with a mill at Bazeille.

The motte for this satellite stronghouse to the south-east of Domfront can still be seen today and bears a strong resemblance to the castle Richard de Lucy built at Ongar, in Essex.

The motte at Lucé is over nine hundred years old, but unfortunately has been reduced in size over the years to embank local roads. The surrounding 15-18 feet wide ditch has almost disappeared. In the late 17th century the motte was measured as 180 feet diameter at its base and 90 feet at the top, with a height of 45 feet. Today it is only approx. 24 feet high. The original stronghouse was probably built in timber. There were three manors within Lucé, namely Cheviers, Brisollière and Chauvière, and from there eminated the de Lucé family, together with the families of de Royers and les Silleur. It is understood that the ownership of Lucé was forfeit at an early date, for reasons unknown.

	.............................................................................. .......The motte at Lucé
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1092: Domfront

In 1092 at the age of 24, Henry Beauclerc, the fourth son of William the Conquerer (later to become King Henry I of England) occupied Domfront, the significant castle of Robert de Belleme and never relinquished it. Henry would have become the overlord of the barony of Lucé.

1119: Gorram (Gorron)

In 1119, Geoffrey de Gorram, a kinsman of Robert de Lucy, was appointed the Abbott of St.Albans. Richard de Lucy's brother Walter lived for some time with Geoffrey prior to becoming Abbott of Battle Abbey after 1139.

Gorram (now Gorron) is only twelve miles from the town of Mayenne and was one of the Norman frontier castles. Originally it was held by Geoffrey de Mayenne, but due to its strategic position, it was probably taken by William the Conqueror c1050 and handed to his brother Count Robert of Mortain. By 1106 it was once again held by the Lord of Mayenne, only to be repossessed by Henry I. At his death it was handed to Juhel I de Mayenne by Henry's daughter Matilda and Geoffrey de Anjou.

In 1135, the castle was given to Juhel II de Mayenne by Geoffrey Plantagenet. Henry II took back the castle at his death in 1161. In 1158 a Giles de Gorham, son of William took 108 knights on crusade in Sinai. Four years later he returned with only 35 and to give thanks, granted land at La Tanniere (seven miles west of Gorram) to Savigny Abbey. In Domesday, 'William son of Gorham' was a tenant on land at Cippenhall, near Fressinggfiels, Suffolk.

1131: Laleu (Alodii)

Richard de Lucy in conjunction with his mother Aveline (nepte of William Goth) sold his inheritance at Laleu (Alodii) to Henry Beauclerc, in 1131. The information is recorded in the Red Book of Séez, the cathedral town located to the north-west of Laleu. This is the first known historical record of the Lucy family.

c1132: Diss (Disce)

The manor of Disce (now Diss in Norfolk) was held by the Crown at Domesday, before it was granted by King Henry I to Richard de Lucy, prior to 1135. The town is named after its location on the mere. The Testa de Neville states that it was not known whether Diss was rendered unto Richard de Lucy as an inheritance or for his service, but states that, without doubt it was for the latter. In 1152 Richard de Lucy received the right to hold a market in Diss, and prior to 1161 he gave a third of a hundred at Diss (Heywood or Hewode) together with the market in frank marriage with his daughter Dionisia to Sir Robert de Mountenay (he is elsewhere named as Arnold).

The Little Black Book of the Exchequer records that this Robert de Mountenay in 1166 held of Richard de Lucy, three knights fees, in Newton, Stow, Walcote, Sprecton (now Sprouston) and Tacolveston. Of these knights fees, the Red Book of the Exchequer states that the ancestors of Richard de Lucy performed ward to Dover Castle of the 'old enfeoffment' (ie. prior to 1135).

Between 1138 and 1141, Richard was in constant attendance on King Stephen and witnessed 135 of his charters. He was with Stephen at Oxford, Norwich and London between 1139 and 1140, in Lincoln between 1140 and 1141 and with him at Canterbury for Christmas 1141. After Richard's death in 1179, the inheritance of the other two parts of the hundred of Diss passed to his daughter Maud, who married Walter FitzRobert.

Mystery: Who is the Geoffrey de Lucy or Loiset who fought at Hastings (?) and afterwards was one of 44 knights who were quartered for five years on the rebellious monks of Ely? This Geoffrey afterwards apparently received the Lordship of Disce from Henry I and was guardian of the Kingdom during the visit of the monarch to Normandy in 1112.

1137: Savigny

A Geoffrey de Lucy is recorded as monk at Savigny in 1137. The family connection with Richard de Lucy is unknown.

1138: Falaise

Richard de Lucy is recorded in Orderic's Chronicle as the Castellion of Falaise for King Stephen and held it stoutly against Geoffrey of Anjou on 1st October 1138. As a reward it is understood that he received thirteen additional knight's fees in Essex, including the town of Grinstead.

On 1st October Geoffrey of Anjou began the siege of Falaise, from which after eighteen days he withdrew having gained nothing. Richard de Lucy was the captain of the knights. According to the record, every day he opened the gates of the garrison to show off his daring and to taunt the besiegers. The castle was well stocked with food and weapons. One night Geoffrey of Anjou's soldiers fled in panic abandoning in their flight, tents full of clothes, weapons and wagons laden with bread, wine and other provisions, which were afterwards collected up by the townsmen. Ten days later however Geoffrey returned and recovered some of this booty from the surrounding countryside.

1139: Lonlay-l'Abbaye

Walter de Lucy, brother of Richard, is recorded in 1139 as a monk at Lonlay-l'Abbaye. The upkeep of Lonlay was the responsibility of the Barony of Lucé. In 1156-59, Richard de Lucy witnessed the charter of Henry II, as King and Count of Mortain, confirming the rights and privileges of St. Mary, Lonlay for Benedictine monks, in the Diocese of Le Mans.

1153: Ongar (Angré)

Richard de Lucy constructed his castle at Angré around 1153. He was a tenant to the Honour of Boulogne in Essex before 1152. Hubert de Lucy, a younger son of Richard was granted Angré and Stanford around 1180. Over fifty feet in height; the motte and bailey still exists and can be clearly seen from the air. The stone keep was demolished around 1560 and replaced with several brick pleasure houses over the centuries; one topped with a dome was still in existence in 1811. Today no buildings remain; just the tree topped motte with its surrounding moat.

The motte at Ongar, Essex

It is probable that the motte and bailey at Ongar were originally constructed by Count Eustace of Boulogne as the caput of his Essex fief. Ongar then passed to his daughter Maud and her husband King Stephen, as part of the Honour of Boulogne. Between December 1153 and October 1154 the manor was granted by their son William to Richard de Lucy. Henry II visited the castle in the spring of 1157. Between 1155 and 1159 King Stephen granted him 100 acres of assarts in the forest from Stanford, Greenstead and Ongar. On the death of Richard in 1179, Ongar passed to his son Godfrey, Bishop of Winchester until 1194 when it was handed to Geoffrey de Lascelles, the husband of Maud, the daughter of Richard's granddaughter Maud or Mathilde.

c1155: Sutton Lucy

The manor of Sutton Lucy in the parish of Widworthy, east Devon was held by the Lucys for many centuries. Interestingly the arms bore two lucies rather than the usual three; possibly an indication of Geoffrey de Lucy (d. 1170-73) of Newington, eldest son of Richard de Lucy, as the original Lord. In the same parish is also located the manor of Lucy Hayes (or Acha Hayes).

c1160: Rainham

The church at Rainham, was founded by Richard de Lucy c1160. The fabric of this Norman church remains almost complete and was later granted to Lesnes Abbey by Henry II on Richard's request.

Rainham Church

1166: Dover

Richard de Lucy confirmed in 1166 that his ancestors performed service of castleguard at Dover. Chilham Tower at Dover Castle was built by Fulbert de Lucy around 1085. Fulbert was obliged to provide fifteen men to guard the castle for twenty weeks a year. The estate of Chilham was held by Fulbert circa 1140 and later by Hugh de Dover until 1172. John de Dover married Roesia de Lucy, grand-daughter of Richard de Lucy before 1194.

1172: Gouviz and Passeis

In 1172 Richard de Lucy is noted as militarily responsible for the Balliwick of Passeis (near Domfront) of which Lucé forms a part and as Lord of Gouviz and Baron Cretot. Gouviz (now named Gouvix) is located just north of Falaise, on the bank of the River Laise. William de Gouviz was present at the Battle of Hastings in 1066.

1178: Newington

The churches of Newington and Marden were granted to Lesnes Abbey by Richard de Lucy. The manor, later named Newington Lucies, was located in Kent, to the east of Lesnes.

Around 1176, Roger St.John of Stanton, Oxfordshire married Cecily, the daughter of Reynold de Lucy of Newington. Roger died in 1214 and because his son was under age, the wardship of Stanton was granted to Geoffrey de Lucy.

1178: Lesnes

Richard de Lucy founded Lesnes Priory on 11th June 1178 and was later interred there after his death on 14th July 1179.

Lesnes-Abbey

Lesnes was never large, with a contingent of only twelve monks and over the next two centuries received gifts of property and land in support, from the deLucy family. It was often damaged by flooding and it became one of the first abbeys to be closed by Wolsey on 13th February 1525. By 1630 most of the buildings had been demolished.

A sepulchral effigy of a Knight of the deLucy family was discovered during the excavations of Lesnes Abbey by Sir Alfred Clapham in 1909. It is now exhibited at the Victoria & Albert Museum in London. Carved from Tottenhoe limestone it was taken from the Lady Chapel, decorated in gesso, painted and gilt, and dated to 1340-50. Red and blue colouration can still clearly be seen on the full size effigy, with three lucies and crosslets identifiable on the shield on a red field. Tin filigree work representing chain mail is evident in places and a red upper tunic with etched crosslets. Unfortunately the head and sword have been broken off and lost; but spurs, the sword belt, armour and overdress are all cleanly carved. From the date, the individual is most probably Geoffrey de Lucy (21 January 1287/88-1346).

c1180: Elmsdon, Gaddesden and Chelmescote

The church at Elmsdon, Essex was granted to Lesnes by Robert de Lucy, Richard's brother, around 1180 and a quit rent granted by Emma de Lucy, his sister.

Geoffrey de Lucy, grandson of Richard de Lucy was known as "Keeper of Sussex" in 1205 and became Constable of Berkhamsted Castle in 1223. He married Julianna le Despenser, heir to the estate of Ralph de Broc, namely Gaddesden (or Lucies) in Hertfordshire, which passed to Geoffrey by marriage when Eva de Broc died. Similarly, the manors of Cublington and Chelmescote, Buckinghamshire came to the Lucys through the same marriage, inherited from Walter de Chesni.

Motte at Elmsdon

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