Felixstowe Pool League

Monday 14th September 2009 Meeting began at 7.35

Present:

Committee members: Marcel Keeble Chair
Mick Florey Results secretary
John Brown Competitions secretary
Carol Florey Treasurer/Secretary
Millars A
Millars B
Snooker Stayers
RBL
Feathers A
Q Club A
Q Club premier
Grosvenor
Fludyers
Dolphin
Beach Lads

1. Welcome
2. Minutes from last AGM agreed
3. Matters arising - discussion of two rule changes agreed last year. There had been some confusion around the table remaining open if a ball was potted on the break but generally both rules were being used well.

An additional item was put forward at this point regarding a rule change agreed in 2007 regarding the move to all singles matches. A suggestion was put forward for discussion regarding the need for a coin toss at the beginning of games - could it not just be that the home team starts first.
There was general discussion and the point was made that this way gave captains the opportunity to prearrange the players to their advantage.

4. Officers reports:
Competitions secretary: John reported that all competitions went well and the 3-man league in the summer was a success.
Results secretary: Mick asked for people to pass messages and emails on to those who can't access them
Treasurer: Carol reported that we ended the 2008/2009 with just over £1000 in the bank. All teams paid on time last year and so accessed the £10 discount. An end of year budget sheet was available if anyone wanted to see it.
Secretary: Carol reported that minutes had been made available for the 2 meetings held in the season on 8th September and 9th March. Trophies were purchased and presented on finals nights. Flyers had been distributed around Felixstowe in August regarding the new season.
Having queried if perpetual trophies were wanted again general discussion followed with an overwhelming view that it just didn't work.
Chair: Marcel reported on the two finals nights and asked members to think about this year's presentation night. If anyone has ideas or requests please contact him.

5. Election of officers

Members were asked if anyone wanted to stand for election.
It was proposed that all present committee members remain in post and unanimously agreed.
All the present committee members accepted.

6. Proposed rule changes

a) AG said he did not propose the two rule changes attributed to him and did not want them discussed as specific rule change suggestions. He made it clear that his email to the results secretary had been misunderstood and that what he had wanted was to discuss whether World Rules should be wholly or partially brought into the Felixstowe League. He also stated that he did not necessarily agree with this but wanted an open discussion for everyone to air his or her views.
The committee pointed out that new rules or changes to rules could only be proposed two weeks in advance of the AGM as per rule 24 of the constitution.
However, members present were then given the opportunity to give their views on World Rules for the Felixstowe League and all that spoke were against it.

Addendum: AG has stated he would have liked his original email read out at the AGM for clarity and so it is copied below:

dear comittee.
i would hereby like to propose that a point of subject to be raised at the agm this year shoud lbe the possibility of some new rule changes for the oncoming season. as was discussed initially with some intention to draw the rules towards the world rules,.
not necessariliy saying that i am in total favour of all but suggestions to consider are,.
a, maybe change the set up of the balls to resemble world rules rather than old epa,. only one ball difference.
b, maybe suggest that ball to cushion contact is required after object contact..
c, anything else tnat other members may suggest .
Adrian Greenacre


b) MB's suggestion of 'scotch doubles for competitions was opened to those present. Comments made included 'works for 9 ball but not feasible for us' and 'doubles competitions are working well now so don't change them.
There was a unanimous vote against the proposal
c) The committees new rule proposal prompted heated debate. Comments made included 'it would be difficult to use' 'big responsibility for captains' 'concern about losing the friendly banter' 'those who have minors in their teams should remember this is a pub league and that implies adults' and 'being barred from the league should also be a penalty as it has been in the past'. It was pointed out that this rule is not there for those who can stand up for themselves but for those who do not feel able to.

A suggestion was made that primarily inappropriate behaviour should be for the captains to sort out. If that doesn't work the penalty would be referral to the committee for consideration and the possibility of forfeiture of team points and/or being barred from the league. If the team is unhappy with this an EGM should be called.
The committee was asked to draw up some wording to reflect these views.

7. Registration

22 teams had registered at this stage of the meeting.

8. Fees

Fees will remain at £70 with a £10 discount if paid before the final payment meeting on12th October 2009

9. AOB

a) Membership of Suffolk County Pool Association
- We are being represented this year in the Champions of Champions event in Yarmouth in November by the Q Club Premier
- The Felixstowe Inter League team has qualified for the National finals also being played in Yarmouth in October.
- Anyone interested in being in the Felixstowe Inter League team please contact Mark Barber or Johnny Brown
- Trials for the county team will take place December/January

b) Would the pool league be interested in doing a weekly charity collection as the darts league does? Comments included 'we used to do this but it faded out' and 'it's hard enough getting people to fork out for the football card'. The landlord of the Old Millars offered to sponsor the event if someone was prepared to organise it. A suggestion was made of linking it with a presentation night but others felt it would be better in the middle of the season perhaps at Christmas or Easter. A big enough venue was then presented as a problem. Two suggestions were made; limit it to the first 40 or make the first stage a house cup competition to be played by teams on their bye nights. £1 entry fee and house winner goes forward to the final charity night.
The committee agreed to consider proposals at their next meeting.


The meeting closed at 9.00pm