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General Hints & Tips


During the winter its a good idea to empty and take the canvas off your folding camper. This cuts down the chance of damp and mildew getting to it. Its a fairly simple and quick job, just remember how it all comes to bits (draw diagrams if it helps) as it may be a few months before you put it back together again.

When putting the canvas back on the unit make sure the poles are put on the correct way round. If you have an awning then the frame may have holes in to insert the awning poles. On the pennine these do not go all the way through the frame, meaning it has to be the correct way round. We got it wrong, never gave it a thought until erecting the awning on site. We then realised the holes were on the inside which resulted in us having to strip it down on site and reassemble the right way round!

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If you find that your struggling with your awning getting stuck in the awning track of your caravan try spraying it with wd40 it will slide a lot easier and it soon evaporates so it wont stain your awning
From John McDonagh

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If you think WD40s good, try Dash Shine or anything with silicon in it.

I bought a one litre Aquachem which is more expensive to buy but is easier to handle and more economical, because of that niffty measure in the top.I found that by pulling a thin plastic cable tie through the hole in the tube up the middle of the measure to form a loop, small enough so that the top still goes on. I am now able to pull the tube out with the awning peg puller and refill the bottle using the cheaper 2litre bottles, and no it's not a messy job as long as you rinse the measure before you start.

From Gary Connelly

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Buying Tips

Hi All
I bought my last new caravan in 1996, checked all that I could think of
nothing seemed to be amiss apart from the small minor things that were put right. It was a 4 berth van and we use it as a large 2 berth. The van is a Lunar with the "L" shape seating at the end.
One night I tried out the double bed, the seating was sprung but the back rests used as part of the matress was firm foam, (the one thing that I hadn't checked). You can guess what it felt like.

So buying new or used vans check that all seating and backs are made the same if used for beding.

John at Worthing

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Outfit:
Swift Conqueror 640 Salon (4berth) &
Shogun 2.5Tdi LWB - both '93 vintage.

Some history:
In the early '70's I cut my caravanning 'teeth' with my parents in their 'new' Sprite Musketeer 14'. Part of the CI (Caravan International) group with three other marques including Eccles & Europa the Sprite range had very thin walls, aluminium window frames and basic creature comforts (all gas lighting, no oven and no water pump).
When on sites my father & I would take the dog for it's walk which would allow us to scrutinise the other vans in the area. We would often comment on the engineering that went into some of the models, the ideas, designs and inventions owners and manufacturers employed. The basic premis that with quality came weight was stronger then than now with fewer 'hi-tech' materials then available. Many makes have come and gone since then but one which always appealed to me - but at the time was out of our reach for reasons of price and tow-ability, was Swift.
To me they appealed because of their superior build quality, styling and equipment levels. They always seemed to have quality vehicles (the bigger Rovers, Range Rovers & Jags) parked next to them - which was probably right 'cos nothing much else had the guts to pull them!

19 years later....:
August/September '99 began doing the rounds looking at 'local' (within a 30 mile radius) 2nd user vans/ex trade-ins. Initially found a 1994 16ft Garland Champagne(?) which was clean & tidy with the asking price of nearly £9k. At the time, with the vehicle we had (& still do) - 'tow car of the year' for 1983-4 ('ish) VW Passat/Santana GL5 Estate I knew it was within our scope. However, still thinking we could do better we scour various other avenues & spot an advert in the Exchange & Mart. A call was made.
On explaining our response was due to their ad, we are asked
"...your not Gipseys are you?". Somewhat taken aback - we put the vendors mind at rest and made arrangements to view. It transpired that certain vanning enthusiast friends of the vendor had had problems attracting the unwanted interest of 'travellers' for their vans. Pressure and strong arm tactics had apparently been applied to get the owners to part with their vans for silly money. Our vendor was understandably initially concerned.

The inspection:
When we arrived, the van , an impressive looking beast, some 24' long with twin axles was sited lengthways in front of the vendors' house. Suitable heavy security was evident. The exterior appeared well polished, as far as could be seen the underside was clean - no evidence of rot etc. the moulded windows were unscratched and the tyres were in good order. The interior (early '90's dusky pink) was mold-free, clean & well appointed. We were told neither the shower nor oven had been used (the oven baking tray was still in its brown wrapping paper!).
We were invited indoors to negotiate the deal over a cup of tea....which to me was the clincher. This young family explained some of the history of the van and during this short time of chatting, I was able to see how they treated their property. In this way I beleive you can always tell those who take little care of their possessions. Even though they both smoked, had two small children and a small dog there were no signs of this sort of use in the van itself. After test driving the Shogun we agreed on a mutually acceptable figure for both units (he'd just lost his job with the local council & needed to realise the capital tied up in them) and made arrangements for picking it up.

Getting it home:
The journey although only 25 miles was both nerve racking and enjoyable. The rig, already being a matched unit, behaved impeccably - even when overtaken at 60 on the M40 by trucks. The twin axles playing their part in the stability. the Shogun, though not being the quickest of motors being a deisel, gave the impression that there wasn't anything on the back of it. The nerves started when I was deciding on the best route to get home once I'd left the relative wide expanse of the open motorway. Roads which up to that point I hadn't given a thought to - regarding their width, were now having to be discounted. No way was I using my usual route to squeeze that thing through!! So I took a longer - wider - route.
Having pulled up outside the house the next problem loomed. The space I'd earmarked to park the van on, required me to reverse it in so far then unhitch it to push it sideways then pull it forward behind a screen.

#### Does anyone know of a cheap Mr Shifta being offered? ##### ! ! !

The plus side of the twin axles' stability now turned against me when trying to manually manouvre the thing. NO WAY.
A couple of hasty phone calls to some of the local farms and a temporary place to store it was found. We've since (checking acceptability with the neighbours first) returned it to out front but now the garage is innaccessible so I still need that Shifta! At least it enables easy maintenance having it out there.

Closer inspection & living with it:
- the pale grey window gasket on most of the windows has reached an age where they to stick to the windows themselves (apparently not uncommon for the age) replacement is available from most good dealers' workshops 25mm = £4.50/m, 32mm = £6.50/m and is now black. Window fittings/catches are also black.
- the van has an on board 9 gallon water tank which uses a sender unit to activate a water level meter on the control panel above the kitchen area. This meter had failed but investigations enabled me to obtain a direct replacement from the original manufacturer 'Plug in Systens' in Hull(tel 01482 652 523). I could've used something from RS but considering one of these would not have had the white stensilled word "water" inside the sealed unit I decided to go for the original which was ready to solder straight in.
- The bath sealant around the plastic shower 'tray' needed pulling out and replacing - straghtforward.
- the strip light above the sink had a dodgy connection - sorted
- one of the plastic (cable tie) supports for the brake cables had sheered - sorted.
- a couple of bulb holders had oxidised connectors - usual for this age van: sorted
- The axles appear in need of a little attention - some rust which'll get rubbed off and liberally painted over with Hammerite.
- On the whole there was no damp, no delamination of the floor around the shower area, no scratches on the windows, no signs of heavy use, no signs of misuse, tyres were good, hitch was fine, cabinets & catches all ok, battery good, floor, ceiling and walls all sound and all the ancilliaries operated.

Plans:
We intend using the unit mid April for our 'honeymoon' (yes I know, how romantic). Later in the year we plan to try a jaunt to Eurodisney - there's a reasonable site 15-20 mins from there which is well priced, plus I quite enthusiastic about towing abroad - though I'm still not quite sure why! Next year ambitions are to get down to Bilbao/St Andare (sorry if mispelt!) to return to our favourite hols destination Spain. There are still a few niggly things to do - it's a case of holding down a full time job (while trying to change to a better one!), maintain a house, 3 cars, a family AND the van! (No peace for the wicked eh?).

Overall:
Although having limited experience in such matters and often reading the advice to think small to medium and THEN work upwards - our experience has so far been very positive. Okay so the whole thing is over 12 meters long and this may restrict our access to certain sites. If however, like me you are 6' 4" and built like a rugby Scrum Half, and your partner has the (rather nice )dimensions of an Amazon, then many of the alternatives we'd seen would not have given us as much potential for comfortable, enjoyable caravanning- which after all is what we are all striving for isn't it? (I can't speak for others, but deliberately 'roughing-it' doesn't appear on our menu).

Summary:
So (thankfully) so far we feel we've been lucky to find a clean and well priced setup which will do us for at least 5 years. Having attended the last Earls Court show (Nov '99) all the '2000' vans don't seem have many more quality fittings and gizmos than were fitted to our model 6 years earlier. I only hope those in the same 'thinking of buying a caravan' situation we were in 6 months ago, have as much success as we did.

Whatever your budget, abilities, restrictions and desires - happy touring!

(PS has anyone found me a 2nd hand Mr Shifta yet?!)


Sent in By Colin

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I had a twin-axle Swift Conqueror and it was a smashing van for living in and towing but once on the rally field it was hell getting it level. You needed a forest of blocks and if you didn't run it up ramps to level fore-and-aft, you put a strain on the jockey wheel mechanism to the extent
that it would easily strip the threads.

Me, I have gone back to a single-axle. Stability is fine as long as you pack the van properly and stick within towing limits. As for large vehicles passing: when I see them coming I pull over the right by the white line and then as they get up to me having themselves pulled out a bit, I then pull
over to the left white line. This leaves a bigger gap!

Sent in By Tony Wise

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If you have a 4x4 with a spare wheel fitted to the rear door and you are
thinking of having an Alko coupling/stabilser fitted, beware of the
following possible problem.

The Alko coupling requires you to raise the stabilser lever fully vertical before you can raise the coupling lever. On my Terran the spare wheel is over the towball (even the extended Alko ball supplied) to the extent that the stabilser leer cannot be raised. With the outfit in the "straight
ahead" position or even with a slight righthand bend, this lever can be raised if the door is open. Shutting the rear door then is a problem as the extended jockey wheel handle gets in the way! Next trick is to take the jockey wheel off after its all hitched up.

Now comes the fun :-(

After bringing the van into its storage pitch, the outfit has a left hand bend! Put on the jockey wheel, can't open the back door far enough to lift the stabiliser lever. Answer is to remove the spare wheel. What a pain. Wish I hadn't bothered. I might add that the Terrano's rear door opens with its hinge on the right. Fortunately I change the car soon, another rear door but hinges on the left and the towball is further back in relation to the spare wheel - I've measured it! No problem of course with an ordinary car.

Sent in By Tony Wise

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This may sound an obvious tip but if you are upgrading your folding camper and thinking of putting it in part ex.. WAIT, think about selling it privately, it may be a little more hassle but it can mean a huge difference in the price. Having just part exchanged a 1998 pennine pulman for a top of the range pathfinder we found it being resold for £700 more than we had been given, so think twice, I wish we had!

Sent in by Lorraine Black

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