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1967 oPt: Israeli occupied Palestinian territory, Jimmy Carter's book tour (2006-2007)

2007-05: interviews, news, events, comment, context

Tough Love: Jimmy Carter, Palestine Peace Not Apartheid


by Charles Judson Harwood Jr.


2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, Sept., Oct., Nov., Dec., 2007 Jan., Feb., March, April, May, June, July, August, Sept., Oct, Nov., Dec., 2008 Jan., Feb., March, April, May, June, July


< May 2007 >


Norman G. Finkelstein, “It's Not Either/Or: The Israel Lobby{copy} (CounterPunch, May 1 2007).

“ Norman Finkelstein: U.S. elite policy, in the Israel-Palestine conflict, would almost certainly not be the same without the Lobby.

What does the U.S.A. gain, from the Israeli settlements and occupation?

In terms of alienating the Arab world, it’s had something to lose.

The Lobby probably can’t muster sufficient power to jeopardize a fundamental American interest.

But it can, significantly, raise the threshold, before U.S. elites are prepared to act, i.e., order Israel out of the Occupied Palestinian Territories.

As the U.S. finally pressured the Indonesians out of Occupied East Timor.

Whereas Israel doesn’t have many options, if the U.S. does finally give the order to pack up, the U.S. won’t do so, until and unless the Israeli occupation becomes a major liability for it:

On account of the Lobby, the point at which “until and unless” is reached significantly differs.

Without the Lobby, and in the face of widespread Arab resentment, the U.S. would perhaps have ordered Israel to end the occupation by now, sparing Palestinians much suffering.

In the current “either-or” debate, on whether the Lobby affects U.S. Middle East policy, at the elite level, it’s been lost on many of the interlocutors, that a crucial dimension of this debate should be the extent to which the Lobby stifles free and open public discussion on the subject.

For in terms of trying to broaden public discussion here, on the Israel-Palestine conflict, the Lobby makes a huge and baneful difference.

Especially since U.S. elites have no entrenched interest in the Israeli occupation, the mobilization of public opinion can have a real impact, on policy-making.

Which is why, the Lobby invests so much energy, in suppressing discussion.”


Legal Consequences of the Construction of a Wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, 2004 I.C.J. 136 (U.N. I.C.J.: International Court of Justice, The Hague, Advisory Opinion, July 9 2004) {8.1mb.pdf, source}, ICJ summary {128.5kb.pdf, source}, U.N. Doc. A/ES-10/273 (July 16 2004) {469kb.pdf, UNBISnet, browse}.

Dennis Ross (WINEP), remarks (Emory University, Glenn Memorial Auditorium, 1660 North Decatur Road, Atlanta Georgia, Tuesday May 1 2007, 4:00 p.m. ET), “Inquiry, Conflict, and Peace-building in the Middle East” (speech, Q&As), introduced by James W. Wagner (Emory president), Q&As moderated by Earl Lewis (Emory provost, executive vice president for academic affairs, professor of history and African American studies), video {1:14:00, 242.24mb.rm, Q&As at 48:35, source}, Emory events calendar, international calendar (month, week, day, detail), notice, Former Mid-East Envoy Ross to Speak at Emory May 1 (News@Emory, April 25 2007), reported, Carol Clark, “Ross: Arabs, Israelis and U.S. share blame for stalled peace efforts” (Emory Report, volume 59 number 30, May 7 2007), Samyukta Mullangi, “Speaker: Dennis Ross Criticizes Carter's Factual Errors{pf} (The Emory Wheel, Atlanta, Friday May 11 2007).

Debate, “This House believes the pro-Israeli lobby has successfully stifled Western debate about Israel's actions,” speakers: Norman Finkelstein, Andrew Cockburn, Martin Indyk, David Aaronovitch, moderated by Tim Sebastian (chairman) (The Doha Debates, Third Series, venue: Oxford Union Society, Frewin Court, Oxford England, Debating Chamber, Tuesday May 1 2007), DD transcript, video (nb, bb) {45:48, 11.3mb.wmv, 77.5mb.wmv}, podcast video {76.12mb.mp4, rss}, broadcast (not in the U.K.) (BBC World, The Doha Debates, Saturday/Sunday May 5/6 2007), Google (larger) {45:32, 57.9mb.flv, source, search}, audience vote: 65.6/34.4% for/against the motion (DD video at 44:46), reported, “66% of Oxford Union Audience Believe the Pro-Israeli Lobby Stifles Western Debate About Israel's Actions” (Qatar Foundation News, May 2 2007), not reported, by the BBC {search, search} or by U.K. newspapers.

Jimmy Carter, remarks (UCB: University of California, Berkeley, sponsor: ASUC: Associated Students of the University of California, venue: Zellerbach Auditorium, Berkeley, Alameda County California, Wednesday May 2 2007, 4:30-6:00 p.m. PT), “Palestine Peace Not Apartheid” (speech, Q&As), moderated by Orville Schell (dean, Graduate School of Journalism), video {1:16:14, 127mb.rm, source, archive, rss menu source}, video {1:07:29, 123mb.rm}, UCB calendar (month, week, day), notice (“Jimmy Carter will hold a book signing in the Eshleman Hall Senate Chambers from 3-3:45 p.m. ... In honor of President Jimmy Carter's visit to our campus, his book — Palestine Peace Not Apartheid — is now on sale at 30% off at the Cal Student Store”).


Jimmy Carter to speak at Zellerbach on May 2” (UC Berkeley News, April 19 2007), “Former President Jimmy Carter to speak on campus” (UC Berkeley News, April 23 2007) (“Attention: Higher education and political reporters and editors”).
Sonja Sharp, “Coverage in Carter-Land{pf} (Daily Cal: The Daily Californian, Wednesday April 25 2007).
Katlyn Carter (assistant university editor), “Carter Ticket Line Stretches Cross-Campus: 1,450 passes to former president's Zellerbach appearance distributed within four hours” {pf} (The Daily Californian, Friday April 27 2007) (“a possibility that the event could be moved to the Hearst Greek Theatre, to accommodate more students”).
Tierney Allen, “Carter Visit Sees Some Controversy In Jewish Circles{pf} (The Daily Californian, Monday April 30 2007).
Janet Gilmore (media relations), “Jimmy Carter to speak on campus this Wednesday” (UC Berkeley News, April 30 2007) (“memo to the media”).
Matthew Taylor, “Commentary: What Are the Prospects for Peace in the Middle East?{pf} (The Berkeley Daily Planet, Tuesday May 1 2007).


Dan Ashley (studio), Alan Wang (Berkeley), videoCarter Talks About Latest Book; Mideast Crisis{2:18, 7.55mb.wmv, rss source} (KGO-TV, ABC7 News HD at Nine, San Francisco, Wednesday May 2 2007, 9-10:00 p.m. PT) (“UC Berkeley visit”), reported, Alan Wang, “Carter Talks About Latest Book; Mideast Crisis: Defends Using 'Apartheid' To Describe Mideast Crisis{pf} (abc7news.com, Wednesday May 2 2007).
Bryan Thomas, “Carter Speaks on Middle East{pf} (Daily Cal: The Daily Californian, Berkeley, Thursday May 3 2007).
Cristina Bautista, “Differing Groups Rally at Talk{pf} (The Daily Californian, Berkeley, Thursday May 3 2007), photos.
Ryan Huff (MediaNews), “Carter speech on Israeli 'apartheid' draws debate {pf}: Many protesters object to former president's characterization of Jewish state as aggressor” (The Oakland Tribune, Contra Costa Times, Alameda Times-Star, Thursday May 3 2007) (“nearly 2,000 people, mostly Cal students, gathered at Zellerbach Hall”).
Jonathan King (public affairs), “For 90 minutes this week, Berkeley was Carter Center West” (UC Berkeley News, Thursday May 3 2007) (“Before a packed Zellerbach audience, the former president urged the U.S. to reassume its role as 'honest broker' in the Middle East, citing strong support among Israelis for a deal that would trade territory for a lasting peace”), 12 photos, “Slide show: A day with Jimmy Carter”.
Judith Scherr, “Carter Focuses in on Palestine/Israel at Packed Zellerbach{pf} (The Berkeley Daily Planet, Friday May 4 2007) (“The bottom line is this: Israel will never find peace, until it is willing to withdraw from its neighbors’ land, and permit the Palestinians to exercise their basic human and political rights,” he said.)
Michael Lerner (blog) (editor, Tikkun), “Our Meeting with Jimmy Carter{pf} (Network of Spiritual Progressives {rss}, Berkeley California, meeting May 2 2007, reported May 4).

“ The Carter Center had arranged for me to meet with Carter, and to invite others as well if I so wished.

So after his speech we assembled in an adjacent room.

I invited eight rabbis (the four Reform rabbis all declined to come hear Carter because of political differences), two nationally respected leaders of the Muslim world, several ministers and activists in the Christian world, several professors, and leaders in the Network of Spiritual Progressives and in Beyt Tikkun Synagogue, as well as Mitchell Plitnick, the national director of Jewish Voice for Peace, and one of the founders of Brit Tzedeck v'Shalom.

In the end, the Secret Service forced me to narrow down the number of participants in this phase.

Carter asked us to tell, how he could be helpful to us, while many of the participants asked, how we could be helpful to him.

... He had allocated an hour and a half to meet with me and whoever I wanted to bring ...

What was particularly impressive to all of us was his humility, good humor, and fundamental human decency ...

The next day, I encountered a Reform rabbi on the streets who, when he heard I had met with Carter, told me, that this was a man who didn’t like Jews and was anti-Israel.

I asked him, if he had read the book (he had not) or ever met the man (he had not).

Wasn’t this “lashon ha'ra”–evil language?

No, he said. He was just trying to defend the Jewish people, from its enemies, like Carter.”

Jimmy Carter, remarks (UCI: University of California, Irvine, sponsors: Center for the Study of Democracy, Model United Nations, Center for Citizen Peacebuilding, Department of Political Science, School of Social Sciences {rss, rss}, venue: Bren Events Center, Irvine, Orange County California, Thursday May 3 2007, 10:30-11:45 a.m. PT), “Remarks on the Middle East Conflict, Israel and Palestine” (speech, Q&As), welcomed by Michael V. Drake (UCI chancellor), William R. Schonfeld (director, UCI Center for the Study of Democracy, dean emeritus, UCI School of Social Sciences), introduced by Catherine Corrigall-Brown (graduate fellow, UCI Center for the Study of Democracy), Jessica Newman (president, UCI Model United Nations Travel Team), moderated by William R. Schonfeld, program {53kb.pdf}, UCI transcripts: speech/Q&As (omits welcomes/introductions), 7 Q&As separately, all 130 submitted questions, 24 photos (“3,400 person sold-out audience”), video {1:10:47, 161mb.rm}, audio {1:12:54, 33.3mb.mp3 source, 1:10:34, 80.7mb.mp3 source} (Radio KUCI), audio {part-1 40.85mb.mp3, part-2 24.41mb.mp3, source}, notice, UCI calendar (month).


Jimmy Carter to visit UC Irvine, talk with students (Today@UCI, April 27 2007).
Michael Miller, “President Carter to speak at UC Irvine{pf} (Daily Pilot, Newport Beach and Costa Mesa, Orange County California, April 27 2007).
Marla Jo Fisher, “Carter will speak at UCI: Nobel Prize winner will talk Thursday about the Middle East” (Orange County Register, Santa Ana California, April 30 2007).


Former President Carter Lecture media coverage ” (UCI School of Social Sciences, News & Events, Friday May 4 2007) {rss, rss}.
Marla Jo Fisher, “Carter comes to UCI: Among other things, President Carter expressed his ideas on ensuring a lasting peace between Israel and the Palestinians” (Orange County Register, Santa Ana California, Thursday May 3 2007), “Slideshow” (5 photos).
Michael Miller, “Activism for all ages {pf}: Former President Jimmy Carter speculates that a problem among college students is indifference about affecting change” {sic: “effecting”} (Daily Pilot, Newport Beach and Costa Mesa, Orange County California, Thursday May 3 2007) (“in response to a question about how ... Carter said, students could campaign for Palestinian rights ... Kristen Dunning, a first-year Spanish major, said she didn’t know much about the facts Carter presented but enjoyed his speech and was intrigued to learn more. ‘It was a new kind of opinion,’ she said. ‘Most of the presidential candidates don’t really talk about their views on the Middle East, and it was good to hear a view that wasn’t affected by wanting to get elected.’).
Dave McKibben, Nardine A. Saad, “At UCI, Carter urges Muslims, Jews to work together {pf}: The former president calls on leaders of opposing student factions to travel to Palestine and ‘see what's going on for yourselves’.” (Los Angeles Times, Thursday May 3 2007, 6:45 p.m. PT), Mark Boster (LAT photo), “All Smiles” (Former President Jimmy Carter and Jessica Newman, left, president of the Model United Nations Travel team, and Catherine Corrigall-Brown, graduate fellow at the Center for the Study of Democracy, share a laugh during his talk at UC Irvine).
Anonymous (AP: Associated Press), “Jimmy Carter Visits Calif. Campus{pf, copy pf, copy} (San Francisco Chronicle, Thursday May 4 2007, 0:44 a.m. PT, San Diego Union Tribune, and others).

“ Former President Jimmy Carter urged students at a Southern California university — with a history of strained relations between Jewish and Islamic groups — to set differences aside, and work together, to find solutions.

“I’d like to see the leaders form a combined group, and take my invitation, to go to Palestine, and see what’s going on, for yourselves,” Carter told a crowd of about 3,300 students and faculty at University of California, Irvine on Thursday.

“If you take me up on it, I’ll raise the money, to pay for your trip,” he said.

* * *

Carter reiterated his belief that Palestinians “are being persecuted horribly.”

* * *

“There’s political fear in Congress, and among U.S. presidential candidates, to speak out, on a balanced position, with anything that relates to Israel. But college students can play a crucial role in this debate,” he said. “You have nothing to lose.”

Yasser Ahmed, a Muslim majoring in economics, said he was “amazed at the manner in which (Carter) portrayed the conflict.”

“As he mentioned in his speech, it is something that is not mentioned in this country,” Ahmed said.”

Stella Cho, “Former President Jimmy Carter Discusses Israeli-Palestine Conflict” (New University, volume 40 issue 27, May 7 2008) {search, archive} (“Israel will never find peace until they withdraw from their neighbor's land.”).


Panel, Roxane Assaf, Andrea London, Frank Tachau, Jim Wall, moderated by Marda Dunsky, “A Panel Book Discussion: Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid (sponsors: Quakers/AFSC: American Friends Service Committee, Chicago Faith Coalition on Middle East Policy, venue: Presbyterian Church of Western Springs, Evanston Friends Meetinghouse, 1010 Greenleaf Street, Evanston Illinois, May 6 2007, 2-4pm CT), audio {55:47, 25.5mb.mp3, source, rss, archive} (Radio WBEZ, Chicago Amplified, CPR: Chicago Public Radio) (email: “the recording ceased at the start of the discussion phase”).


Ilan Pappé (Haifa) (senior lecturer in political science, University of Haifa, chair, Emil Touma Institute for Palestinian Studies in Haifa), interviewed about May 4 2007 by Christopher Brown (Berkeley) (“lived and reported from Palestine for three years”), part-1: “Taming The Beast: Ilan Pappe Defends A One State Solution” (Crossing The Line: Life in Occupied Palestine, “A weekly podcast giving voice to the voiceless in occupied Palestine,” radio KPFA studios, Berkeley California, posted Friday May 11 2007), CTL audio {57:06 segment-2 at 6:10-19:15, 52.2mb.mp3, rss, search, search, search}, linked {rss, rss, search, search} (PalCast, “Podcasting the Occupation of Palestine”), audio segment (Pappé), Christopher Brown (producer), “Life in Occupied Palestine,” part-1, “Ilan Pappe talks about the need for a one state solution in Israel/Palestine” {13:02, 5.9mb.mp3, rss, source, source, search} (slow download) (A-Infos Radio Project, radio4all.net, Watkins Glen New York), audio segment copy (Pappé) {13:02, 5.9mb.mp3, source, rss, menu, search, search} (Electronic Intifada, Chicago). Ilan Pappé is author, The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine (Oneworld Publications, Oxford England, published October 12-19 2006, U.S. November 1) {U.K., U.S., Germany}, forthcoming: Ilan Pappé, The Bureaucracy of Evil: The History of the Israeli Occupation (Oneworld, July 1 2010) {U.K., U.S.}.

Jimmy Carter (Atlanta), interviewed by Tang Yong (Washington correspondent), “"We can be a benevolent superpower," interview with Jimmy Carter{pf, text, rss} (People's Daily, Beijing, Monday May 14 2007).


Ilan Pappé (Haifa), interviewed about May 4 2007 by Christopher Brown (Berkeley), part-2: “The Catastrophe: "Where are we going?"” (Crossing The Line: Life in Occupied Palestine, “A weekly podcast giving voice to the voiceless in occupied Palestine,” radio KPFA studios, Berkeley California, posted Friday May 18 2007), CTL audio {57:09 segment-2 at 5:20-18:10, 52.3mb.mp3, rss, search, search, search}, linked {rss, rss, search, search} (PalCast, “Podcasting the Occupation of Palestine”), audio segment (Pappé), Christopher Brown (producer), “Life in Occupied Palestine,” part-2, Ilan Pappe talks about Ehud Olmert, Winnograd Commission, Azmi Bishara, academic freedom, Norman Finkelstein, Pappé’s intended relocation, as professor of history (“20th Century ethno-politics”), Exon: University of Exeter, Penryn Cornwall Campus (Tremough) {12:44, 5.8mb.mp3, rss, source, source, search} (slow download) (A-Infos Radio Project, radio4all.net, Watkins Glen New York), audio segment copy (Pappé) {12.44, 5.8mb.mp3, source, rss, menu, search, search} (Electronic Intifada, Chicago).

Frank Menetrez, author, “As Tenure Drama Comes Down to the Wire: Dershowitz v. Finkelstein: Who's Right and Who's Wrong?” (CounterPunch, April 30 2007), interviewed by Christopher Brown (Berkeley) (“lived and reported from Palestine for three years”), “The Catastrophe: "Where are we going?"” (Crossing The Line: Life in Occupied Palestine, “A weekly podcast giving voice to the voiceless in occupied Palestine,” radio KPFA studios, Berkeley California, posted Friday May 18 2007), audio (part of the preceding item audio) {57:09 segment-3 at 20:28-29:25, 52.3mb.mp3, rss, search, search}, linked {rss, rss, search, search} (PalCast, “Podcasting the Occupation of Palestine”).

Jimmy Carter (Atlanta), interviewed Friday May 18 by Frank Lockwood (religion editor) (blog), “Carter: Globally, Bush administration 'worst in history'{pf, copy} (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, Little Rock Arkansas, Saturday May 19 2007) (“the oldest continuously published newspaper west of the Mississippi River”), audio (excerpt) {5:35, 1.27mb.mp3}, reported, AP: The Associated Press, “Carter: Bush Admin. Is "Worst In History" {pf, rss rss rss menu}: 39th president blasts the 43rd for “endorsing” pre-emptive war, abandoning treaties and peace talks” (CBS News, Saturday May 19 2007).

Jimmy Carter (Atlanta), interviewed Friday May 18 by James Naughtie (BBC Radio 4, Today, London, Saturday May 19 2007, 7-9am at 8:10-8:20 a.m.) {BBCcat}, audio {10:24, 2.44mb.rm, 4.24mb.mp3, rss rss menu menu menu, rss menu, search, search, a/v, a/v, rss}, extended audio {15:01, 3.51mb.rm} (“The former American President Jimmy Carter has written a book which is particularly critical of Israeli and American policy. It’s called Palestine Peace not Apartheid.”), reported, “Carter attacks Blair's Iraq role{pf} (BBC News, May 19 2007, 9:50 a.m.), audio (excerpt), “Carter attacks Blair on Iraq” (bb) {3:08, 760kb.rm, 1.47mb.rm, rss} (“Former US President, Jimmy Carter, has accused Tony Blair of being subservient to George Bush over Iraq”), copy {3:39, 569.40kb.rm, source}, reported, AP: The Associated Press, “Bush Is 'the Worst in History' In Foreign Relations, Carter Says{pf} (The Washington Post, Sunday May 10 2007, page A7), Reuters, “Carter Criticizes Bush and Blair on War in Iraq{pf} (The New York Times, Sunday May 20 2007), and 500+ other publications.

Jimmy Carter (CBS Evening News, New York City, Saturday May 19 2007, 6:30 p.m. ET, lead items), his BBC radio interview, excerpt broadcast, Mark Strassmann (Baghdad), videoThe Latest In Iraq{2:18, 10.88mb.rm, rss rss menu, source, search} (“prime minister Tony Blair, on his last visit to Baghdad, came under mortar fire in the Green Zone and verbal assault from former president Jimmy Carter”), his interview with the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, colloquy, Jeff Glor (studio), Douglas Brinkley (Washington D.C.), videoCarter Bashes Bush{2:25, 11.41mb.rm, rss rss menu, source} (“presidential historian Douglas Brinkley talks to Jeff Glor about president Carter calling the Bush administration ‘the worst in history’”), in context, entire CBS Evening News broadcast (excluding adverts), podcast video {16:23, 75.54mb.mp4, ditto, archive, rss menu, rss menu}, also broadcast, not by AFN TV: American Forces Network (AFN News, schedule, weekday editions only), by Sky News TV (12:30 a.m. BST, 11:30 p.m. GMT, by cable and satellites in Europe, freeview in the U.K., and in Australia and New Zealand), simulcast by BFBS TV: British Forces Broadcasting Service (6 channels, including Sky News) (“Going to Iraq or Afghanistan? Now you can watch BFBS TV in your tent!”).

Jimmy Carter (Atlanta), interviewed Friday May 18 by Marian Finucane, “Books” (RTE: Radio Telefís Éireann, Radio 1, Marian Finucane, Dublin, programme 74, Sunday May 20 2007, 11am-1pm at 12:10-12:30 p.m.) (“Ireland’s most listened to weekend show”), audio {1:59:49, 14.19mb.rm, Carter 21:04, 2.50mb.rm, at 1:10:52, archive/source, rss menu, search, search}, Carter interview segment (PalCast, “Podcasting the Occupation of Palestine”) {14.47mb.mp3, 21:04, source, search, copy, source, archive, rss, source}.

Jimmy Carter (New Orleans), interviewed by Meredith Vieira (blog) (New York City) (NBC, The Today Show, New York City, Monday May 21 2007, 7-10am at 7:39 a.m. ET), FNS transcript {text, Carter archive, TS archive}, videoCarter: I was 'careless' on Iraq remarks{9:19, 20.42mb.wmv, 20.76mb.flv, rss menu, source pf, rss} (“May 21: Jimmy Carter talks to Today's Meredith Vieira and says he was ‘careless’ in remarks criticizing the White House over Iraq”), broadcast time (7:39) voiced by Meredith Vieira in the extra 12 seconds of the netcast video (part-6 of the first hour) {9:31, 20.95mb.wmv, 21.29mb.flv}, podcast audio (unrelated segment) {4:26 1.02mb.mp3 rss menu}, broadcast by about 200 U.S. TV stations affiliated to NBC, by cable, by satellites (western hemisphere), by Orbit News on satellites (Europe, Middle East, channel 27, 12:00-3:00 p.m. (live) GMT), by AFN TV: American Forces Network (schedule, AFN News, live (first 2 hours), 12:00-2:00 p.m. GMT).

Robert Jensen (professor of journalism, University of Texas at Austin), “The Commonplace Cowardice of Responsible Professors: What the Finkelstein Tenure Fight Tells Us About the State of Academia” (CounterPunch, Friday May 25 2007), and see, Kathryn Weber, “A Conversation with Norman Finkelstein: Target of a Witch Hunt” (CounterPunch, Wednesday May 9 2007) (“professors ... have the luxury of devoting their working life to trying to ferret out the facts and the truth about what’s going on”).

“ Robert Jensen: The principled view is that faculty members ... have a responsibility to pursue research addressing relevant questions that are meaningful in the lives of real people, especially the most vulnerable struggling for justice.

That kind of research is likely to lead to trouble (because it challenges the prerogatives of the powerful to rule as they please).

* * *

In the United States there are fewer and fewer spaces where truth-telling is possible.

Electoral politics has become a poll-driven, sound-bite enterprise.

Mass media specialize in the superficial and shallow.

Universities, though dominated by corporate money and the corporate mentality, still provide one of the few remaining spaces for open and honest engagement.

Protecting that space is important not only for those of us in the privileged position of faculty, but for the society more generally.”

Jimmy Carter, interviewed by Gabby Wood, “Get Carter{pf, search} (The Observer, London, Sunday May 27 2007).

“ On Friday, May 18, I meet Jimmy Carter in his office at the Carter Centre in Atlanta.

* * *

I asked whether there had been any response from the White House to his book or his views ...

“No,” he said, “not a word.”

* * *

Carter first travelled to Israel in 1973 as Governor of Georgia.

He left Israel feeling optimistic, and that the “plight” of the Arabs “seemed of relative insignificance to me.”

I ask if, in retrospect, that was naive.

Jimmy Carter: “Well,” he replies, “the Arabs were not being persecuted then.

There were a total of 1,500 Israeli settlers in the West Bank, and they had been on kibbutzim — individual farms that they had acquired — for decades.

And that was before there was any massive effort by the Israeli government to colonise the West Bank in order to confiscate it.

I met with the top leaders in Israel, and all of them presumed that that land belonged to the Palestinians, and there was no concept at that point, at least by the ones with whom I met, that they would simply take over that land and keep it permanently, as it seems to be now.”

* * *

I suggest to Carter that Bill Clinton doesn’t come off terribly well in the book.

Jimmy Carter: “Well,” he sighs, “I’ve had somewhat of an altercation with Clinton’s representatives, who say I don’t give Clinton adequate credit in the book.

You know, I give Clinton credit for making his best effort, but the proposals that Clinton made were never clear.

And both the Israelis and the Palestinians accepted the principles, that Clinton put forward, with enormous caveats.

Later, it was politically acceptable for the Israelis and for Washington to say: “We agreed, but Arafat didn’t agree.”

In fact, neither one of them agreed.””



New York Times Bestsellers, “Hardcover Nonfiction.” Palestine Peace Not Apartheid, by Jimmy Carter (Simon & Schuster, published Wednesday November 15 2006) (Sunday editions, week:rank): December 3 2006 (1:11), December 10 (2:17), December 17 (3:7), December 24 (4:5), December 31 (5:5), January 7 2007 (6:5), January 14 (7:5), January 21 (8:6), January 28 (9:5), February 4 (10:6*), February 11 (11:2), February 18 (12:3), February 25 (13:3), March 4 (14:9*), March 11 (15:11), March 18 (16:11), March 25 (17:17), April 1 (18:22), April 8 (19:35). Notes: “An asterisk (*) indicates that a book’s sales are barely distinguishable from those of the book above”. “The exact methodology used in creating the list is classified as a trade secret.”

In New York Times speak, “bestsellers” are the 15 top-selling books of the 35 it lists, the remaining 20 it labels “also selling.”

Jimmy Carter’s book, Palestine Peace Not Apartheid, was on the “New York Times Bestsellers” list for 19 consecutive weeks and was a “New York Times Bestseller” for 15 weeks. His book “debuted” at 11, dropped out of the top-15 the second week (at 17), rejoined the “bestsellers” for the next 14 consecutive weeks, and then remained on the list afterwards, “also selling,” for the next 3 weeks.

June 2007



By CJHjr: Transcribing TV/radio audio (paragraphed/punctuated for speech, the speaker’s rhythm, stress, pace), bold-face, text {in braces}, quotes from printed sources: some added paragraphing, commas.

This document is not copyrighted and may be freely copied.


Charles Judson Harwood Jr.

Posted Dec. 1 2006. Updated June 13 2009.


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