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James Abourezk (December 3 2006): I can tell you from personal experience that, at least in the Congress, the support Israel has in that body is based completely on political fear — fear of defeat by anyone who does not do what Israel wants done.
I can also tell you that very few members of Congress — at least when I served there — have any affection for Israel or for its Lobby.
What they have is contempt, but it is silenced by fear of being found out exactly how they feel.
I’ve heard too many cloakroom conversations — in which members of the Senate will voice their bitter feelings about how they’re pushed around by the Lobby — to think otherwise.
In private one hears the dislike of Israel and the tactics of the Lobby, but not one of them is willing to risk the Lobby’s animosity by making their feelings public.
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Secondly, the Lobby is quite clear in its efforts to suppress any congressional dissent from the policy of complete support for Israel which might hurt annual appropriations.
Even one voice is attacked, as I was, on grounds that if Congress is completely silent on the issue, the press will have no one to quote, which effectively silences the press as well.
Any journalists or editors who step out of line are quickly brought under control by well organized economic pressure against the newspaper caught sinning.
I once made a trip through the Middle East, taking with me a reporter friend who wrote for Knight-Ridder newspapers. He was writing honestly about what he saw with respect to the Palestinians and other countries bordering on Israel.
The St. Paul Pioneer Press executives received threats, from several of their large advertisers, that their advertising would be terminated if they continued publishing the journalist’s articles.
It’s a lesson quickly learned by those who controlled the paper.
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So I believe that divestment — and especially cutting off U.S. aid to Israel — would immediately result in Israel’s giving up the West Bank and leaving the Gaza to the Palestinians.
Such pressure would work, I think, because the Israeli public would be able to determine what is causing their misery and would demand that an immediate peace agreement be made with the Palestinians.
It would work because of the democracy there, unlike sanctions against a dictatorship, where the public could do little about changing their leaders’ minds.
One need only look at the objectives of the Israeli Lobby to determine how to best change their minds.
The Lobby’s principal objectives are to keep money flowing from the U.S. treasury to Israel, requiring a docile congress and a compliant administration.
• Ilan Pappé (Haifa) (senior lecturer in political science, University of Haifa, chair, Emil Touma Institute for Palestinian Studies in Haifa), interviewed by Christopher Brown (Berkeley) (“lived and reported from Palestine for three years” “In 2004 he volunteered with Christian Peacemaker Teams near Hebron. While escorting Palestinian children to school he and a colleague were beaten by Israeli settlers.”) {1.7mb.pdf}, “‘Israel needs a wake up call’: An interview with Ilan Pappe” (Crossing The Line: Life in Occupied Palestine, “A weekly podcast giving voice to the voiceless in occupied Palestine,” radio KPFA studios, Berkeley California, posted Monday December 4 2006) {rss, search, search, search}, “A rare voice: An interview with author Ilan Pappe” {pf, rss, menu, search, search} (Electronic Intifada, Chicago). Ilan Pappé is author, The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine (Oneworld Publications, Oxford England, published October 12-19 2006, U.S. November 1) {U.K., U.S., Germany}, forthcoming: Ilan Pappé, The Bureaucracy of Evil: The History of the Israeli Occupation (Oneworld, July 1 2010) {U.K., U.S.}.
Rick Chambers {studio}: President Jimmy Carter’s here, in town tonight.
But not everybody’s happy to see him here.
That’s because, his new book is creating some controversy.
KCAL9’s Jennifer Sabih, now, is live in Pasadena, to explain why.
Jen.
Jennifer Sabih {reporting live}: Rick, people are talking about Jimmy Carter’s new book.
They’re not always saying nice things.
But they’re definitely talking.
And that is exactly, what the 39th President, of these United States, had hoped would happen.
Jennifer Sabih {taped report}: With a wave, and a Southern smile, former President Jimmy Carter came in cool and calm.
But keenly aware, his latest book, has kicked-up a firestorm.
Jimmy Carter: I think my book can help.
Yes.
I don’t think there’s any doubt, my book has precipitated a discussion.
Jennifer Sabih: That discussion is being led, primarily, by pro-Israel groups.
Who are angry.
Not only at the title, Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid.
But at Carter’s characterization of human rights abuses, in Palestinian territory.
Jimmy Carter: This is one of the worst cases of human rights abuses.
What the Israeli settlers are doing, and the military, are doing, to the Palestinians.
It’s almost unimaginable.
Ari Rubin (JDL: Jewish Defense League), one of several people outside, on the sidewalk, holding signs saying, “Hey, Jimmy: Who paid you to write these lies!” “Jimmy Carter: Worst President of All-Time” “2-4-6-8, Israel is the Jewish State, 3-5-7-9, No such thing as Palestine” (see, “Action: JDL Calls for Demonstrations Against Jimmy Carter: Author Deserves Public Bashing for Lying, Posted December 10, 2006)”:
Jimmy Carter is a Jew-hater.
He’s shown that, through the publication of this atrocious book.
Jennifer Sabih: Carter knew he’d be labeled an anti-Semite.
He says, almost anyone critical, in any way, of Israel attracts that description.
And other Jewish protesters, who gathered — along with a thousand other people, wanting to buy the book — outside of this Pasadena store, agreed:
Yossi Khen (JAJP: Jewish Alliance for Peace and Justice) (Brit Tzedek v'Shalom), one of several people outside, on the sidewalk, holding signs saying, “Thank you Jimmy Carter for Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid”:
There is a kind of a feel, in the United States, to criticize the policy of Israeli government—
{Apparently, some edited-out colloquy, to shorten the report, and then a question, e.g., “Why?”}.
Because they’re labeled as anti-Semitic.
Jennifer Sabih: President Carter told me, tonight, his major foreign policy goal was to bring peace to Israel.
And, to do that, it’s going to take open discussions, in America, about Israeli policies.
That may be a bit of a battle.
But, in the end, President Carter is counting on his pen, being mightier, than the sword.
Jennifer Sabih {reporting live}: By my estimation, there were about a dozen protesters here tonight.
But — far outnumbering them — was the number of people who came to actually buy the book.
A line, snaking twice, around the block.
About 2,000 people got their book signed here.
Reporting live, from Pasadena, I’m Jennifer Sabih, KCAL9 News.
Leyna Nguyen {studio}: O.K., Jennifer. Thank you.
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Willa Sandmeyer {reporting live}: More than 2,000 people showed up, and lined up outside Vroman’s Bookstore, anxious to have the former President sign his copy of the book for them.
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Willa Sandmeyer {taped report}: People began lining-up, more than 5 hours, before the former President’s scheduled arrival, at 7:00 in the evening.
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Jimmy Carter says, he hopes his book will help Americans see, what he calls, the “plight” of the Palestinians.
Jimmy Carter: I think that this will open up, to the consciousness of a lot of people — even a lot of reporters — the fact, that they ought to, need to look, at the Mid-East.
And, see what’s happening, in Palestine.
It is, absolutely despicable.
Scott MacLeod: You’ve just held a conference questioning the Holocaust.
Why not hold a peace conference instead?
You could invite the Israelis and Palestinians to talk about peace, instead of what happened 60 years ago.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: As a matter of fact this conference was in line of peace.
Because for the past 60 years, the Palestinian people have been suppressed, using the Holocaust as the pretext.
If the issue of the Holocaust became clear, the issue would be solved.
Scott MacLeod: How?
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: When the issue becomes clear, and understood, that the Holocaust does not have any relationship with the Palestinian people, then we will have two proposals for the Western and European countries.
The first solution is, that in the same way that you mounted this regime in the past, you can remove it yourself.
You know well that the Holocaust has nothing to do with the Palestinian people. That was just a pretext to create this regime. And it was not a good excuse.
Just cease to support it.
Don’t use your people’s money to assist this violent regime.
This is the best solution.
If they do not accept the first solution, then they should allow the nation of Palestine to make their decision about its own fate. Anyone who is a Palestinian citizen, whether they are Christian, Jewish, or Muslim, should decide together, in a very free referendum.
There is no need for war.
There is no need for threats, or an atomic bomb, either.
Scott MacLeod: Israel isn’t going to accept any of this.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: If the American and British governments do not support and help them — and they stop using their power and influence — they will accept.
Scott MacLeod: Without a war?
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: Yes.
Why not?
Everyone knows that the Zionist regime is a tool in the hands of the United States and British governments.
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In New York Times speak, “bestsellers” are the 15 top-selling books of the 35 it lists, the remaining 20 it labels “also selling.”
By CJHjr: Transcribing TV/radio audio (paragraphed/punctuated for speech, the speaker’s rhythm, stress, pace), bold-face, text {in braces}, quotes from printed sources: some added paragraphing, commas.
This document is not copyrighted and may be freely copied.
CJHjrCharles Judson Harwood Jr.
Posted Dec. 1 2006. Updated June 9 2009.
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