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Colin
Fry uses an interpreter who has been edited out due to the fact that her
translation is far from correct, and for the convenience of the reader. In
some cases, at the end of the séance, the interpreter is so bad that she
alters the meaning of Fry's words, making them more favourable from Fry's
point of view. In those cases, the interpreter has not been edited out but
translated into English for the reader to be able to grasp what is going
on.
Due to the use of a concealed microphone, there are disturbances on the
recording when the microphone has been moved. These are noted in brackets.
In some cases, attributes have been given to persons in this transcript.
"Lonely man", "Elderly woman", etc. This is not an attempt to pass
judgement in any way, but to make the reader aware of what impression the
person could have made on Fry.
[Presenter introduces Colin Fry]
[Colin Fry/CF] If you can't hear me, say so. (CF tries
the microphone but decides to manage without it.) Can you hear me without
it? (Turmoil and laughter.) I'm going to try without it. If at any point
you can't hear me, just say so, we'll go back to the microphone, but...
Rather than play around with microphones, we'll... Well, good afternoon!
[Some in the audience] - Good afternoon!
CF: - Is that the best that you guys can do?
[Audience laughs]
CF: - Is this... Is this the point when we all join hands and
we try contact the living?
[Audience laughs]
CF: - You've probably realized by now, I don't speak Swedish.
Well, a little bit. I can ask for an "askkopp" (ash tray).
[Audience laughs]
CF: - How many of you have, uhm... never been to a
demonstration of mediumship before? (CF looks for raised hands) Quite a
few. Right... There are some things that I'm going to have to ask you to
do for me this afternoon. To enable the world of spirit to connect to me
so that I can then connect to you. And the first thing you have to do,
please, is: for God's sake, smile!
[Audience laughs]
CF: - Because your friends and your loved ones and the people
that you have known that have passed to the other side of life, are not
going to come through on a vibration of misery. The other thing that I'm
going to ask you to do, please, is please don't sit with your arms
crossed. There is two reasons why I ask this. First of all, it's very
defensive. (A lady in the audience now asks the interpreter to wear a
microphone.) And the other reason why I ask people not to cross their arms
is that we have this very important energy centre here, called the Solar
Plexus. And the association of this energy centre is the act of giving.
And if you don't give, you don't receive. What I want you to do at this
point is I want you to look at the people sitting next to you and sitting
in front of you. And just think for a minute, wouldn't it be nice if they
got something. And then everybody is thinking of somebody else. Now, with
the best will, I'm not going to be able to give a message to everybody. I
may not be able to give a message to anybody.
[Audience laughs]
CF: - The reason why I ask you to do is because we are all
here for one another. So it's very important that you don't sit with
selfish motives just wanting for yourselves. All right. Now the last thing
I'm going to ask you before we begin is please can you make sure that all
your mobile phones are switched off. Because the only messages I wanna
receive are from the spirit world and not from your babysitters. Now,
sometimes I know where I have to go, and other times I just get a sense of
an area, and at other times I just get the sense of the spirit connecting
to me and they cannot show me where they want me to go. If you feel that
you understand the things that I'm saying, put your hands up.
[Audience laughs when some people raise their hands]
CF: - There must be an easier way to make a living...
[Audience laughs]
CF: -Right, so you put your hands up - not now!
[Audience laughs]
CF: - And, uhm... This reminds me, I was doing a
demonstration once, and I was giving a lady a message from her mother and
she was saying "Oh yes, that's correct, I understand". And this message
went on for about ten minutes and then right at the end she says "But it
can't be my mother!", and I said "Well why is that?". She said "Well she's
dead!".
[Audience laughs]
CF: - Now, it's very, very important, that when we do make a
connection, you must talk to me. I always say that as a medium I'm like a
telephone switchboard for the spirit world. I ring out for them. And if
nobody responds or replies, they disconnect or they're disconnected. OK?
It's very important to be up, to be positive and to remember that you are
here for one another as well as the spirit world. And smile. OK. Right...
(Pause) The first impression that I'm getting is a lady that's trying to
connect to me. And this lady that's trying to connect to me is what I
describe as an "enabler". She is someone who is trying to make a
connection, not so much for herself, but she's trying to bring through
someone who cannot find a connection to me of their own. The lady that is
connecting to me, I feel, is in some way connected to somebody here today
and she, I do feel that she wants to convey a brief message, but I feel
that it is a gentleman that she is trying to bring through. The first
feeling that she is giving me, is that in her earthly life... Very
strange! In her earthly life, she never lived in Sweden. (CF walks across
the stage) I'm being pulled over here somewhere... I'm gonna have to...
Just cut this side of the room and come over here... (pause) As she's
trying to connect to me, she's showing, or trying to show me, uhm...
fabric in very bright colours. I get a sense, I get a sense, a feeling
that I may be connected with the, the purple scarf woman, yes... Uhm...
(CF now addresses a woman that is anxiously whispering
to her male companion, to the right in the centre section of the
audience.)
[Purple scarf woman, of foreign origin, judging by her accent,
addressing the interpreter] - I think... I feel a bit, he has
only begun... I feel that you must... I don't know if he's right...
CF: - What I'm going to ask you to do is, it's very
important, that you don't tell me anymore than I need to know. Let me tell
you what it is that, you know, that I'm feeling, alright? I get the
feeling from this lady that in, uhm... her life, that she had either
damaged her hands in some way or that, uhm... later in life her hands were
very deformed. Does this make sense to you?
[Purple scarf woman] - No, not yet.
CF: - Right. I also get a feeling from her, uhm... You know
the sta... you know the condition arthritis?
[Purple scarf woman] - Of course, I have it myself.
CF: - OK, this feeling that I'm getting from this lady is
that she empathises with you, because in her earthly life she had very bad
arthritis in her hands at the end of her earthly life.
[Purple scarf woman] - That's right...
CF: - I get... The, the feeling that she's conveying on to me
is the fact that she spent a great deal, uhm... She spent a great deal of
her life constantly struggling for money.
[Purple scarf woman] - Mmm...
CF: - I don't know why this is important but there is, there
is something about, uhm, uhm ... thoughts that she is conveying to me,
about... Something about a great love of pineapple. (Pause) Strange things
convey through. Often when I'm working I ask them to try to indicate, uhm...
whether they are, uhm, family or friends, I get the feeling of family but
I know that she passed to the spirit such a long time ago, that you would
either have very, very faint memories of her or you weren't actually even
born when she passed over. (Pause) Tell me, I'm not quite sure where this,
where this is going, would you be able to understand please, why she is
asking me, uhm, what she wants me to, I need to mention about Brazil? And
I feel this is something current. Would you be able... Do you have a
connection with something to do with the South America or, uhm, who are
talking about going to South America?
[Purple scarf woman] - Of course, of course.
[Interpreter asks in Swedish: "Which?"]
[Purple scarf woman] - Argentina
CF: - Because, the feeling that I'm, that I'm, that I'm
being, this, this, uhm... And tell me, are, are you a little bit con...
Would you understand that the... You're a bit concerned about the person
or people that have got this thing about going to South America, because
I'm being, I'm being shown back to South America, are you concerned about
them in some way?
[Purple scarf woman] - No, no, it concerns me actually. I'm
planning to go.
CF: - You're planning? Then I would have to actually say to
you, because this relation eludes me. I keep asking her "Can you show me,
you know, how you're connecting", how with you. She doesn't seem to be
showing me, she seems to be pulling me to the right, and that usually
indicates to me that she must connect to you through your father's family.
[Purple scarf woman] - Aha...
CF: - So I'm gonna (non-audible), you're not concerned about
someone going to South America, I think that she has concerns for you
about going to South America. Now it doesn't mean that she's saying that
you shouldn't, but what she's giving me, she saying she's being concerned
for you, uhm, about doing, about doing this.
[Purple scarf woman laughing, saying something non-audible and then:]
- Is she saying I should stay?
CF: - Well, I don't think it's... We have free will, we have
to make our own decisions, but... I just get a feeling that she would be
concerned for what you were about, this, this plan that you have, uhm, uhm...
to do with South America. Can I just also ask you please, would you also
be able to understand that she's putting into my mind this thought back in
me that she wants to mention to you that at the long run, you need to be
cautious about a matter that involves 48,000 kronor (crowns)?
[No answer from the purple scarf woman]
CF: - Now, I don't like predictive elements in messages, but
I don't think this is a predictive element, I think it's something that
she feels that she's aware of or knows of from a matter in your life that
involves 48,000 kronor. Now tell... I'm not sure if I'm still with you,
because I'm getting, I'm getting pulled, but please would you be able to
understand the gentleman that passed to the spirit that had bowel cancer?
[Purple scarf woman thinking before she says:] - Bowel
cancer? No...
CF: - Well, I've got... I'll be back to you in a minute. I've
been... I had a feeling I probably wasn't... I think I'm being pulled over
here
(CF walks across the stage, addressing the other half of
the audience)
And I think I'll find the gentleman I need to connect to
here... I have a, I have a gentleman who is trying to connect to me, uhm...
And I'm... Get a feeling that he wants, uhm... I'm with one or two
gentlemen... These two gentlemen sitting here... I'm with one of these two
gentlemen here... Uhm, I've got this gentleman with me who's giving me
this message that he passed to spirit from bowel cancer or, or cancer in
his (non-audible) body. Bowel cancer. I'm with one of these two gentlemen
here.
(Pause - no one answers)
I'm getting more strongly towards this gentleman
in the cardigan. Tell me Sir, would you please understand why this name of
"Erik" could be, would be so important? I've gotta be in that area
somewhere because the, I don't think we seem to be settling... Hello Sir?
You would understand about a gentleman called Erik and why I'm getting
this, this sense of bowel cancer?
[Personal friend of CF. Prior to the demonstration, CF approached this
man and his wife in the audience, when they had taken their seats, and the
couple are acquainted with him. The couple sits 5-6 seats away from the
gentlemen first addressed] - Yeah
CF: - Right, OK...
(The interpreter fills in: "Åke recognizes me" -- the
man is obviously known by his first name to all in the "crew")
I knew I was in the area somewhere, I knew it was
a gentleman... It's always a pain to get messages for someone that you
know. Uhm... OK... As this gentleman is trying to, uhm, connect through,
he's asking me, uhm... OK, he's asking me to actually say to you that he
wants you to understand that because of what you've done in your earthly
life, he owes you a debt of gratitude. I think a simple way to say it is
that he's grateful to you. He's... He's grateful to you for having... He's
grateful to you for having had the courage to do things in your life that
he didn't have the courage to do. It's almost as if he wants you to know
that he's taken some satisfaction from being able to observe your life or
be connected to your life in some way, from the spirit side of life, and
taking some satisfaction, or some pleasure, out of seeing you do what he
never had the courage to do. Do you understand?
[Personal friend of CF] - Yes
[CF, after pausing a bit] - Uhm... Who said, have you ever
played the guitar?
[Personal friend of CF] - Oh yes I have
CF: - I don't know if this... I know this is probably
something quite... Did you, did you recently pick up a guitar and tried
and play it again?
[Personal friend of CF] - Yes
CF: - Right. Because as he says this to me he's laughing here
and saying "Please tell him, he's just as bad at playing the guitar as he
ever was".
[Audience laughs]
CF: - I don't know (non-audible). But would you be able to
understand about something to do with changes, and the fact that your
fingers seems to be too big? And he just wants you to know that on that
particular day he (non-audible) close to you, and you made him laugh about
the fact that you were having such problems playing this, this guitar.
(Pause) Uhm, sometimes my mind uses to convert things into, uhm, English
things that I understand, so what I'm just about to say to you might not
be quite what it means but it's the way my mind is converting it. He's
showing me you handing over a check or a bank slip, which is being done
only within the last few weeks.
[Personal friend of CF] - Yeah
CF: - OK, and he's asking me that, he says that even though
you might find this fact a bit hard to understand, it should signify to
you the end of your worries, the end of your troubles.
[Personal friend of CF] - Yeah, I understand
CF: - Uhm... What... What is this about you worrying about
going deaf? Uhm, he's trying to show me something that he feels as if
though you've been thinking or complaining recently that you're not
hearing as well as you did.
[Personal friend of CF] - Yeah, comes with age...
[Audience laughs]
CF: - No... I feel that he's, he's more to the point, that to
make a stronger point to you, uhm... Rather like, rather like I had to in
earthly life, sometimes it's not, the case is not being able to hear,
sometimes it's a case of not wanting to listen to what's being said.
(Pause) He's asking me to connect to both you and Anne now, uhm... It's
very difficult when you know things, a little bit about somebody. He's
showing me an indication that earlier back in the summer, when you were
out on the boat...
[Wife of CF's personal friend] - Yeah
CF: - And you saw something, and one or the other of you said
that if that's a sign, I hope it's the sign of, of, of better times to
come.
[Wife of CF's personal friend] - All right, I can understand
him...
CF: - OK. And he's just asking that he wants me to say "And
hopefully that you will see this." (Pause) Just before, just before he's
asking me to... No, I'm gonna be wrong, OK, I will leave Erik's love with
you...
[Wife of CF's personal friend] - Thank you very much...
CF: - (Pause) I'm still trying to get this, this gentleman
through... I will try to come get back to you... I've just had the most
striking, I don't know if I ever, ever had this before... Uhm, would
someone please understand that they have a grandfather spirit side of
life, who did missionary work?
[Lonely man in the audience] - Yes
CF: - Sir, does this make sense to you?
[Lonely man] - Yes
CF: - Was your grandfather a missionary?
[Lonely man] - Yes
[The interpreter asks the man whether it was the grandfather on
mother's or father's side]
[Lonely man] - Father's side
CF: - Sir, as this connection is, uhm, coming through to me,
uhm, I'm going to ask you a question here, do you have a living memory of
your grandfather, do you remember your grandfather?
[Lonely man] - No
CF: - You don't? You do?
[Lonely man] - Yeah, no...
CF: - You don't, ah... Uhm... He's showing me something that,
he is trying to show me something that, again, it's something I've never
been shown before. Would you, or did your grandfather ever have any
dealing with people who did work for people with leprosy or a leper
colony?
[Lonely man] - No, no...
CF: - That doesn't make sense to you. Uhm... Some of the
different things that come have to be checked. Would, would you, uhm, look
into your family history, did your grandfather ever do fundraising or
charitable work that raised money for a leper colony? It's a strange thing
to be shown, it's so specific, I feel as though I gotta ask you to go away
and check. (Pause) I'm trying to work out why he's showing me bars of
gold. Uhm... (Pause) OK, I understand... I would have to say to you, Sir,
I don't feel that your grandfather was ever overly concerned about money.
I don't think it was terribly important to him. Would you understand that?
[Lonely man] - Yes
CF: - Right, uhm... And I don't, I don't wanna bring up your,
your... You know I gotta convey this message... I don't wanna bring up
your personal business in front of, you know, don't worry about that. But
he, but asks me to actually say to you that as he was never worried about
money, nor should you be. And he seems to be aware that from, from June of
this year, somewhere in the back of your mind, there's something to do
with a matter of finance that, that needles you, that plays in your mind.
[Lonely man] - Yes
CF: - OK. He's asking me to say to you that you're ruining
the quality of your life by worrying so much about money. (Pause) Uhm,
tell me Sir, do you have a crack in a wall or a ceiling that is annoying
you?
[Lonely man] - In the windscreen of my car
CF: - In the windscreen of your car, it's annoying
you. He's showing me about this crack and he says to me he knows that
you're annoyed or irritated. He's just ask me to actually say to you it
may annoy you, it annoys him even more.
[Audience laughs]
CF: - And he's also asking me to mention this, this that...
He feels as though you're pre... Your mind is playing on small things at
the moment. Little things are upsetting you a great deal. But they're not
important. Sir, I have to actually say to you, I cannot see what he means,
whether he means a brother or a son, but he's ask... actually imploring
you to repair a relationship between a brother or a son. You understand
this?
[Lonely man] - Yes
CF: - And also...
[Lonely man] - I understand
CF: - Also, that he's saying to you, that you cannot expect
more from this person, they cannot be any more than they are, he asks you
to learn to accept them the way they are. (Pause) Sir, are you the one who
does the pencil sketches?
[Lonely man] - No
CF: - Right, OK... Uhm, and, in this case the, the brother or
son, I just know that it's a male and, and close to you, your grandfather
is actually asking me to, to try and show some interest in what this man
has done with sketching or drawing some sort of design with pencil. I
think, he would be pleased, he would be, he would be pleased if you showed
some interest. Are you, and you, and you're, you're the one that's getting
the headaches? Uhm, I always keep saying that I never give credit for
advice, I'm not a doctor, I just convey what (non-audible). For instance
he was just asking me to actually saying to you please will you actually
tell him he hasn't got a brain tumour. You seem to be quite cheerful and
OK now but he is actually saying to me that not so long ago you were a
little bit, a little bit preoccupied with the idea of dying. (Pause) Now I
have to actually say that I'm conveying a message here, it has nothing to
do with my personal feelings on the subject. (Pause) Your grandfather says
that you should read the bible.
[Audience laughs]
CF: - He's asking me that you, he asks you just to read one
thing and it's a bit if you read it, he hopes you will understand why he
has asked you to read it. And it's the first book of John... Come on, show
me... (CF is apparently talking to the spirit) John 6, verse 3. He says
once you've read it you'll understand why he's asked you to read it. I
think he would be happy if you read the bible every day but he's asking
this... Read it, until you understand why he's asked you to do it. I feel
that's all he wants to say to you. I'll leave you with his love. (Pause)
[Note: John 6:3; "So Jesus went on up the mountainside and sat down
there with his disciples." (New English Translation)]
CF: - This woman is still trying to get this guy
(non-audible) but it's not quite happening. I'm letting her try to
actually contact come through. I'm getting these names that, Elena or
Eleanor. As she is connected to me, I'm gonna have to describe her
personality or character, uhm... I get this feeling of a very, very sweet
lady. Kind, gentle, but I get this sense of sadness, to the end of her
life her personality changed a great deal. Almost as... Right, for what
she's trying to convey is the fact, is that she, she couldn't feel, she
couldn't behave as herself. The way my mind accepts this, is, is, is, my
mind accepts she's telling me "my mind was somewhere else".
[Woman next to psychic -- woman sitting next to one of Sweden's most
popular psychics, Mr Jorgen "Cry Baby" Gustafsson] - Oh, yes
CF: - She does seem to feel that the people who were close to
her in a way, found it very difficult to, to see her. It was almost... She
knows that it was too painful for these to see her become, had become a
different person. Not the person that they knew. Would you please
understand that there seems to be something a little bit upsetting the wo...
something that she feared it was upsetting... Did sh... Would you
understand (non-audible) where she had to be held or restrained to stop
her from hurting herself?
[Woman next to psychic] - She was very weak, very old...
CF: - Right. I got this feeling as though she has, uhm, a fit
of hysterics and they had to hold her arms to stop her hurting herself.
[Woman next to psychic] - I'm trying to think 'cause I felt
it was another person and it was another one then. Because the person I
thought about, she didn't have that kind of strength or...
CF: - I think this was through... The feeling I'm getting was
that this was through fear.
[Woman next to psychic] - OK...
CF: - The ta... I get a feeling about... This is almost to
where she was trying to push somebody away or, you know, and they had to
hold her arms because they were frightened she was gonna hurt herself... I
don't think she realized what she was frightened of, I don't think she
realized that the person who was there was somebody, someone that she
actually knew. It's almost as if she couldn't recognize this.
[Woman next to psychic] - I'm not sure yet, but...
Continue...
CF: - I'm getting a very strong taste of marzipan.
[Woman next to psychic] - OK. (Pause) Uhm, yes... Now I'm
starting to realize who you are talking about...
CF: - As she's trying to express herself, the way she she
feels as though this... by giving me this taste of the marzipan, it's
called "help to identify".
[Woman next to psychic] - Yeah, yeah, yes, now I really
beginning to understand who it is...
CF: - I don't feel that she has an incredibly long message
for you. But she's just asked me to actually say to you that there is
one... No, no, that there is one thing that I can say to you. Thank you
for not letting anybody say anything bad about me.
[Woman next to psychic] - I can understand that.
CF: - Yes?
[Woman next to psychic] - Yes
CF: - And I don't, I don't necessary feel that she means on a
financial level but she's just asked me to say you would understand "They
took everything I had to give, I had no more to give".
[Woman next to psychic] - Yes, I can understand it...
CF: - So thank you for not letting them talk bad about me.
[CF, after a long pause] - (non-audible) Tell me, what is
that, have you got a problem at home with a picture that will not hang
straight?
[Woman next to psychic] - Uhmmm...
CF: - No, I'm sorry, I'm going to correct myself, it's a
mirror.
[Woman next to psychic] - Yes, OK, OK...
CF: - I just looked into it and I could see my own
reflection, it's gotta be a mirror, it can't be a picture. She says...
She's asking me in fact to say to you, it's nothing wrong with the mirror.
It's the wall.
[Audience laughs]
CF: - And that's why it won't hang straight.
[Woman next to psychic] - OK...
CF: - And I, and I, I, I, I do feel that there's a reason why
she's mentioned that because... I, I don't think it's her personal
(non-audible), I think it's someone that asks for this to be said to you.
You really should have that wall checked.
[Woman next to psychic] - OK
CF: - 'Cause there is a reason why that mirror keeps...
[Woman next to psychic] - OK
CF: - I mean there's something wrong with the wall... (Pause)
I'll leave her love with you...
[Woman next to psychic] - OK
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