1st Advanced Mirror Making Seminar

 

The 42 inch blank

 

 

The Astronomy Centre

The astronomy centre is a well resourced observatory set up by amateurs for amateurs, instruments now available include a 30 inch telescope . New members always welcome, observing sessions held every Saturday. 

1st Advanced Mirror Making Seminar

  18th January 2003

  I was fortunate enough to attend this meeting, its purpose was to bring together professional opticians and other interested parties to discus the grinding and polishing of the 42 inch diameter mirror to be installed in an observatory at The Astronomy Centre.

  The mirror is 42 inches in diameter, 3 inches thick and has a pre-generated curve to F4. The blank weights 400lbs and is BVC, a laminated material produced by fusing together thin sheets of glass, and supplied by ASM products in Canada.

  The meeting was hosted by Steve Taylor, the technical director of the Astronomy Centre. The day consisted of a number of sessions dedicated to the various aspects of mirror making from design through to aluminising. There were no formal speakers as such, people would just chip in to share their experiences.  Those  present included Peter Wise, John Wall, Norman Oldham, John Owen, Dave Owen and Peter Drew the founding father of the Astronomy Centre.

  Amongst the subjects discussed was the possible optical configuration of the telescope. Peter Wise proposed an all spherical system, he displayed an eight inch telescope with the same optical system.  In addition to the primary there were two lens elements. For the 42 inch mirror one of these would need to be  somewhere in the region of 10 inches in diameter and was a doublet. On the plus side the system required a spherical primary, relatively easy to figure, on the negative side was the making of the large  additional lens elements.

  Dave Thompson of the Liverpool sidewalk astronomers contributed much useful information about the two 30 inch mirrors he had been involved in making. The first attempt was with a 1 inch thick blank, which was a partial success, the second with a 1.5 inch blank was by all accounts a good mirror. Both mirrors are of plate glass.

  The business of testing the mirror was discussed. Steve Taylor said he could borrow a good quality 1-meter diameter flat if required. This tempted me to suggest the primary be tested by autocollimation. Even though the  test flat was not of the required diameter it could be used off set. The mirror could then be rotated to enable viewing of the remainder of the surface. An additional flat would be required to turn the light on to the side for viewing and positioning the light source.

John Owen then described the Offner null test and suggested this would be a suitable solution. The test is very similar to the Dall null test in which a plano-convex lens is used to introduced spherical aberration equal but opposite in sign to that produced by the mirror under test. The result is that when a knife edge is introduced as the radius of curvature the mirror surface is seem to darken evenly (null) across its surface. The two tests just mentioned assume that a paraboloid is required for the final figure. The difference between the Offner and Dall tests being that the former utilises two lens, a more desirable configuration when a high quality surface is required. This was the test used to figure the Hubble space telescope mirror, I hesitate to mention this for fear of putting the mockers on the project! John Owen when on to talk about various aspects of mirror making which I found absorbing.

  Paul Rees  who works for TTL gave an interesting insight in to the design process used by his company when asked by a customer to produce a telescope. He went on to give an excellent description of the surrier truss type tube assembly.

Peter Drew concluded the meeting with an appeal for ideas on how to attract more people to the astronomy centre. This is a unique group in the country and I believe the amateur astronomical community needs to support and make use of the centre. 

An excellent day was had by all present and it was agreed that another such event should be organised. Full marks to Steve for putting the event together and to those who helped out with domestic arrangements. I look forward to the next event!

 

 

 

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