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Miscellaneous Tudgay and Tudgey families

As the genealogical records of an ordinary family are patchy at best, some of what follows is my best guess based on recurrence of names and closely matching dates. I have tried to ensure my speculations are indicated, such as by ? preceding a name.

It seems that all derive from the families of Longbridge Deverill, Wiltshire Map of the Somerset/Wiltshire homeland of the Tudgay families


Early records from Frome, Somerset

Records of the Longleat Estate holdings in Frome (source) have No 15 Bath Street as leased in 1654 for 99 years to Thomas TUDGAY, baker, on the lives of his wife Margaret and their children Constance and Thomas. Rent 4s p.a. Then in 1680 to Timothy CHAPMAN, clothworker, for the lives of himself, Constance his wife (perhaps the daughter of Thomas TUDGAY) and their son Thomas [1]. In 1733, however, the lease passed to John CARPENTER, cardmaker, for the lives of William, son of William CARPENTER, shearman, John CARPENTER and William his son.

John Tudgay, m Ann Pane, on 13/05/1706, at Frome Selwood, Somerset. He may well have been the second son of Joseph Tudgey of Longbridge Deverill, Wiltshire. If it is the right John, then he had a younger brother, b 1690, named Benjamin. backward link

Benjamin Tudgay Betty (?Elizabeth)
John Tudgay
b 1751, Frome
m Hannah Parsons
05/08/1776 at Frome
? d. 1808 in Frome Workhouse
Hester Tudgay
b 1753
m 15/09/1774, at Frome
Elizabeth Tudgay
chr 29/03/1760, at Frome
Anne Tudgay
chr 16/04/1763, at Frome

(Parents: Father: Benjamin TUDGAY Mother: Betty)
Sarah Tudgday
b 20/04/1777
baptised 19/09/1795
St John's Frome

In ?late 18C, John Tudgay was a tenant at Friggle Street Mill, Frome web link to source

The 1785 Battle & Creese "census" of Frome shows John Tudgay, a shoemaker, living in Broad Street. The household contained 2 males and 2 females, houseowner was Mrs Webb.

From Baptism records of St John's Frome

John Tudgay Rosanna (Rose)
Nancy Tudgay
baptised 09/09/1775
Mary Tudgay
baptised 10/01/1777
Frederick Tudgay
baptised 25/12/1789
Susanna Tudgay
b 09/1787
baptised 25/12/1789
William Tudgay
b 03/1783
baptised 25/12/1789
Prudence Tudgay
baptised 02/11/1791
Piety Tudgay
baptised 02/11/1791
Prudence Tudgay
baptised 1793

Jeremiah Tudgay, son of James and Anne Tudgay, baptised 10/01/1777. Jeremiah Tudguy married 17/02/1800 to Mary Ramson of Whately, witnesses T Jones & John Deacon.

The Additional rates for Frome Town Tithing, 1827 has the following :-
John Tudgay living in Clink, house owned by James Green
James Tudgay living in Ennox Hill, house owned by Francis Herman
Susan Tudgay living in Broadway and Cottles Oak, house owned by Mrs Church
? Tudgay, living in Catherine Street, house owned by Mrs Burgess

Pigot's Directory for 1842 and 1844 also had John Tudgay, shopkeeper, in Duke Street [source]

Betty Tudgay a Widow, whose house contained 2 males & 3 females also was in Broad Street
What looks like a Mr Tudgay is shown as owner of a house occupied by Mary DUTCH a spinner.

William Tudgay, m Sarah Hooper, on 24/06/1819, at St John's Frome [web link to source] - son of John & Rosanna, see above.

"Some believe that the name of Frome derived from the Celtic word, ffraw, meaning fair or brisk. In 685 AD a group of monks led by a man known as the Abbot of Malmesbury and Bishop of Serbourne ( one in the same person ) built a wooden church dedicated to John the Baptist. In 690 AD this church had developed into a monastery and served as the foundation for the city of Frome. In 1086 AD entries made in the Doomsday Book by the Norman assessors noted that Frome had a thriving town, a weekly market, three mills and the hunting forest of Selwood ( reserved for the king who owned the manor ). Frome ( or Frome Selwood ) is in the east of Somerset and west of Wiltshire and nestles in the foothills of the Mendips. The terrain is ideal for the raising of sheep and the woolen industry grew and prospered on the basis of this during the 17th and 18th centuries. By 1823 Frome was suffering from the results of mill automation and lost trade to Bradford in Yorkshire. Diversification was the key to survival and over the following centuries Frome developed its reputation as a cloth producing town as well as a collection point for the output of local villages. By 1852, our ancestors, Charles Randell and Emily Hawkins, had moved from nearby Warminster to live in Gentle Street, Frome, and in the same year they were married in Frome Church Selwood. Charles was a Coach painter by trade and Emily worked as a Silk Spinner. Steam power had already been introduced to the mills of Frome in 1811 and the woolen industry continued to hold its own but with a lesser demand for labour. Frome also had a station on the Weymouth branch of the Great Western railway and rail travel was becoming more popular to those unwilling to travel by coach and horse along the unkept highways of Somerset and Wiltshire. The Coaching businesses were becoming far from prosperous and this may have encouraged Charles and Emily's next move when they looked at the promise of more abundant permanent work in London". Extract from - http://www.clrandall.freeserve.co.uk/randall_family_tree4.htm

It seems the 1871 Census of Frome has no one with the name Tudgay, Tudgey, Tudgee, etc. source

Similarly, there were none in Frome in the 1881 Census.


Others recorded as born in Somerset

James Plank, b. ca 1786, (at Bethnal Green?), went to Shepton Mallet, Somerset, with his father (Stephen Plank ex Bethnal Green), and met Amy Tudgay. They married 08/11/1813 at Pilton. They had no children but Amy already had an illegitimate daughter, Eliza, b. ca 1808. James died of a fever at Shepton Mallet in 1838. The Poor Law records for Haslemere in 1838 have a settlement examination for Amy that was dated 4 days after James died. Amy outlived her husband by nearly 40 years. She was 92 when she died at Bruton (Somerset) in 1877. web link to source.

Fanny Tudgey, chr 05/11/1810, Wesleyan, Bath, Somerset

Harriet Tudgay, b 10/07/1814, Wanstrow, Somerset; Harriet Tudgay, m 02/09/1838, at East Cranmore, Somerset.

In the 1841 Census there was only one Tudgay living in Bath.

"Transcriptions from the Calendar of Wills and Administrations (Kicked off by Ed) This is just a beginning, These are for the name of Strange and Strainge in the indexes to the Principal Registry of Probate (1858-1861) [source]" include - Elizabeth Strange. Effects under £20. 7 January. The Will of Elizabeth Strange late of 5 Albion-place in the City of Bath Widow deceased who died 23 December 1864 at 5 Albion-place aforesaid was proved at Bristol by the oath of James Tudgee Strange of 5 Albion-place aforesaid Grocer the son the sole Executor.
James Tudgee Strange of 16 Stall-street Bath provision-merchant's-assistant died 20 Sept 1901. Probate Bristol 13 Nov to Henry Rex provision-merchant's-assistant. Effects £114. The only obvious candidate is Elizabeth Tudgay, m Stephen Garrett (Garratt), 05/02/1809, Kingston Deverill, Wilts link


Family or Families living in Beckington, Somerset in 1881 and Frome Selwood in 1901 Census

Family of Abraham Tudgay (abe1837wilts) - ex Kingston Deverill, moved ca 1866, eldest son of Stephen Tudgay, of Kingston Deverill {short description of image}

living in Goose Street,
Beckington, in 1881
General Labourer
living in Frome in 1901
Abraham Tudgay
b 1837
Kingston Deverill, Wilts
m 01/01/1862
Kingston Deverill
Louisa Marshall
b 1836
Kingston Deverill, Wilts
Henry W Tudgay
b 1863
Kingston Deverill
(1881 Census not 1901)
Rose Tudgay
b 1864
Kingston Deverill
in 1881 Census for Frome
(below)
Mary Tudgay
b 1866
Kingston Deverill
in 1881 Census
Edward Tudgay
b 1867
Whatley, Somerset
in 1881 Census & 1901
Frank Tudgay
b 1872
Whatley Somerset
in 1881 Census
in 1901 married living in Newton St Loe (below)
Sarah Tudgay
b 1874
Whatley/Marston, Somerset
in 1881 & 1901 Census
?Annie Tudgay
b 1877
Whatley/Beckington, Somerset
in 1881 & 1901 Census
Charles Tudgay
b 1880
Beckington, Somerset
in 1881 & 1901 Census
Lily Tudgay
b 1880
spouse? ?
Harry Tudgay, aged 6, born Spring Gardens, Frome Linda Tudgay, aged 5 months, born W Woodlands, Frome

Rose Tudgay, b 1864, Wilts, daughter; also as Servant; note - Rose Tudgay, in 1881 Census of Frome, living at 25 Market Place, Frome, as a general domestic servant to the Singer family, unmarried, aged 17, born Kingston Deverill [source http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~druce9/market1.htm]

1901 Census -
Abraham Tudgay, b 1837, Kingston Deverill, Wilts, Head; in 1901 Census, aged 65, born Kingston Deverill, occupation General Labourer; in the 1881 Census the family was living at Goose Street, Beckington, Somerset; Alfred was an Agricultural Labourer
Louisa Tudgay, b 1836, Kingston Deverill, Wilts, wife; Louisa Tudgay, aged 52, born in Mells, Somerset, was Housekeeper at Membland Hall, Holbeton Parish, in the 1891 Census for Devon; in 1901 Census, aged 65, born in Kingston Deverill
Abraham Tudgay (Tudgey), m Louisa Marshall, 01/01/1862, Kingston Deverill, Wilts
Henry W Tudgay, b 1863, Kingston Deverill, son, in 1881 Census, living at Goose Street, Beckington, Somerset - Brewer's Labourer, not in 1901 Census
Edward Tudgay, b 1867, Somerset, son; in 1901 Census, aged 32, born Whatley (west of Frome), Somerset, occupation Cattleman on farm
Annie Tudgay, aged 24, born Beckington, Somerset, in 1901, occupation Domestic Servant
Charles Tudgay, b 1880, Somerset, son; in 1901, aged 21, born at Beckington, Somerset, occupation Printers Labourer
Lily Tudgay, b 1880, Wilts, daughter; not in 1901 Census
Harry Tudgay, aged 6, born Spring Gardens, Frome
Linda Tudgay, aged 5 months, born W Woodlands, Frome

Family in Newton St Loe in 1901
Frank Tudgay, aged 29, born Whatley, Somerset, occupation Cattleman on farm
Emma Tudgay, aged 52, born in Bath


Family in Bristol in 1901 Census - George, son of George Tudgay, third son of Stephen Tudgay (1810-1880) of Kingston Deverill {short description of image}
George Tudgey, age 43, born in Bristol (an error??) and living in Bristol, occupation, Dock Gate man
Sarah Tudgey, age 45, also born and living in Bristol
James Tudgey, age 15, also born and living in Bristol, occupation, Tobacco Packer
Annie Tudgey, age 7, also born and living in Bristol
NOTE - George Tudgey, b 1858, was living at No 32, Village, Kingston Deverill, in the 1881 Cansus, with Sarah Tudgey, b 1816, widow of Stephen Tudgey (1810-1880). Presumably, he was her grandson.


Others in the 1881 Census for Somerset

9 Bathurst Parade, Bedminster, Somerset
Charles Tudgay, b 1855, Bristol, Head, Baker
Celia K Tudgay, b 1857, Pill, Somerset, wife
(neither in 1901 Census)

Garston, Mells, Somerset
John Tudgay, b 1851, Kingston Deverill, Wilts, lodger, farm labourer
John was living in the house of William Stacey, b Upton Scudumore, Wiltshire, England, age 37, Occupation Groom Unemployed Out Pensioner Chelsea (8), Married
He was a son of Stephen Tudgay and by 1901 was married and living at Tuckmarsh in Somerset {short description of image}

39 Butts Hill, Frome
Walter Tudgay, b 1863, Kingston Deverill, Wilts, unmarried, carter, lodger in home of Maria Deacon, aged 74, widowed, Green Grocer occupation carter [also see source http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~druce9/buttshill1.htm]

20 Bathwick Hill, Bathwick, Somerset
Mary Tudgay, b 1855, Kingston Neville, Wilts, servant; cook for Annie C Fenton, b 1833, on board ship, widowed with income from a pension, head of household


Family of Melksham, Wiltshire in 1901
William Tudgay, age 36, born Bath (?not in 1881 Census);
Anna Tudgay, age 36, from Melksham, wife
Both living in Melksham, Wiltshire. He was a Furniture Warehouseman


1881 Census family of Lydford, Dorset, ex Monkton Deverill and Milton Clevedon (tree deduced from 1901 Census)

Henry Tudgay, b 1855, Monkton Farleigh, Wilts, Head, House By The Line, Lamyatt, Dorset, Farm Labourer
Henrietta Tudgay, b 1856, Dublin, Ireland, wife
Mary Annie Tudgay, b 1877, Monkton Deverill, Wilts, daughter
Catherine Tudgay, b 1877, Monkton Deverill, Wilts, daughter
Lily Tudgay, b 1880, Boreham, Wilts, daughter

Henry Tudgay
b ca 1855
at Monkton Deverill
(Henry1856md)
m Henrietta
??
b ca 1856
Dublin, Ireland
(Henry1856mdsp)
Annie Tudgay
b ca 1876
Monkton Deverill
(Henry1856md)
Catherine Tudgay
b 1877, Monkton Deverill, Wilts
(not in 1901 census)
Lily Tudgay
b 1880, Boreham, Wilts
(not in 1901 census)
Bessie Tudgay
b ca 1881
Milton Clevedon
(Henry1856md2)
Walter Tudgay
b ca 1883
Milton Clevedon
(Henry1856md3)
Charlie Tudgay
b ca 1885
Milton Clevedon
(Henry1856md4)
John Tudgay
b ca 1890
Milton Clevedon
(Henry1856md5)
Herbert Tudgay
b ca 1893
West Lydford
(Henry1856md6)
Eveline Tudgay
b ca 1895
West Lydford
(Henry1856md7)
Susan Tudgay
b ca 1897
West Lydford
(Henry1856md8)
Harry Tudgay
b 25/01/1904
d 08/1977, Ohio, USA

Henry John Tudgay, b ca 1890, and Herbert Tudgay, b ca 1894, both emigrated from Lydford, Somerset, to De Kalb, Illinois, USA {short description of image}.
Also emigrated Harry Tudgay, b 25/01/1904, d 08/1977, Ohio; I guess he was a younger brother of Henry John and Herbert.

William Walter Tudgay, died in the first World War see below


Family of Frampton, Dorset

Joseph Tudgee m Rose?
Rosanna Tudgee, chr 02/01/1756, at Frampton, Dorset; ? Rose Tudgey, m 15/06/1780, at Long Bredy, Dorset, to William Kellaway; Rose Tudgay (Tudgey) m William Callaway (Kellaway), 1780, Dorset
Sarah Tudgee, chr 24/05/1761, at Frampton, Dorset
Catherine Tudgee, chr 05/01/1764, at Frampton, Dorset
Parents: Father: Joseph TUDGEE Mother: Rose

Further Dorset family - in 1881 Census for Dorset, living in Challow Dairy House, Corfe Castle
from Kingston Deverill and went to Woking, Surrey pre-1901

David Tudgay, b 1846, Kingstone, Wilts, Head; in 1901 Census, David Tudgay, age 51, born Kingston Deverill, living at Woking, Surrey, occupation Stockman in Farm;
Elizabeth Tudgay, b 1848, Penneard, Somerset, wife; in 1901 Census, Elizabeth Tudgay, age 50, born Penneard, Somerset, living at Woking
Herbert G Tudgay, b 1875, Buckhorn Weston, Dorset, son; no one called Herbert was in the 1901 Census
but may well have been Albert = A Tudgay - see below, born Buckhorn Weston
Edna F Tudgay, b 1877, Dorset, daughter, born at Buckhorn Weston, Dorset
Osmand Tudgay, b 1879, Mere, Wilts, son; in 1901 Osmond was a Police Constable living in Portswood, Southampton

In 1901 only David & Elizabeth were living at Woking.

In 1881, Annie A. Tudgay, b 1854, ?, unmarried, servant, The Square, Gillingham, Dorset, household of Annie Davis

In 1901, Annie Tudgay, age 44, born in Kingston Deverill, was a domestic cook in Bournemouth.
Also in Bournemouth, as a Domestic help, was Lillie Tudgay, age 29, born in Deverill.

Family of A Tudgay of Haselbury Bryan, Dorset in 1901 Census
A Tudgay, aged 28, born Buckhorn Weston, Dorest, occupation Police Constable (adorset1873)
Annie Tudgay, aged 26, born Spitisbury, Dorset
Doretta Tudgay, aged 5, born Broadmayne, Dorset
Florence Tudgay, aged 4, born Wyke Regis, Dorset
Hilda Tudgay, aged 2, born Wyke Regis, Dorest
Albert Tudgay, aged 11 months, born Haselbury Bryan, Dorset
Also
Emily Lily Louise Tudgay, b 10/03/1902, Beaminster, Dorset


Hampshire Tudgey family members

James Tudgy, m Sarah Grove 12/07/1789 at Milford on Sea, Hants; possibly from Broad Chalk, Wiltshire

?? is John on John jr wedding certificate
then a Gardener
James/John Tudgey Mary ?
Sarah Tudgey
m 04/12/1852, at St. Marys, Portsea, Hants
Ann Tudgey
b 1833, Hordle, Hants;
Ann Tudgey, m
Henry Brewer
18/09/1862, at Hordle, Hants
mother Rachael, father not given
John Tudgey
b 1838
Fritham/Bramshaw, Hants,
head, in 1881 Census for Hants
Alfred Tudgey
chr 15/02/1841, Fareham, Hants
parents James and Mary
(?not in 1881 Census)
Henry Tudgey
chr 09/03/1843, Fareham, Hants
(? not in 1881 Census)
Elizabeth Tudgey
m 16/04/1860, at Alverstoke, Hants
1861 Census living at South Stoneham Bachelor
occupation Carpenter
of Itchen Ferry, St Mary Extra, Southampton
m 07/01/1861
St Mary's Southampton
Sarah Othen
b 1833, South Stoneham/West End, Hants
1871 living in Alma Road, Bitterne Sarah Tudgey
in 1881 Census for Hants

John Edward Tudgey
b 02/1861
d 20/10/1862
at West End
Sarah Alice Tudgey
b 1863
Thornhill
(b cert)
Census - West End, Hants
William Tudgey
b 1865
West End, Hants
Rosa Ada Tudgey
b 1872
Sholing, Hants
m Alfred Wiltshire
16/08/1884
South Stoneham
m Nora ??, b 1872
in 1901
living in Bitterne
m Charles? Gurman
dau Kathleen Tudgey
{Broad Chalke to Fritham}

1881 Census - Stoney Road, South Stoneham, Hampshire (now in Swaythling Parish, north Southampton)
(Family of John Tudgey, b 1838, Bramshaw, Hants, a carpenter, and Sarah Tudgey
Alice Tudgey, b 1863, West End, Hants, daughter
William Tudgey, b 1865, West End, Hants, son
Rosa Ada Tudgey, b 1872, Sholing, Hants

{Southampton}The 1901 Census has William Tudgey, age 36, with his wife Nora, age 29, both born in Southampton and living in Bitterne, Southampton. William was a Carpenter & Joiner Handyman.

Fritham and Bramshaw are west of Southampton (off the B3708, actually just off a direct road route to Broad Chalk, via Fordingbridge, see map above); West End, Sholing and Bitterne are all now in the eastern suburbs of Southampton; Fareham is east of Southampton.

South Stoneham - Created 1st July 1837. Abolished 1st January 1925 (incorporated into Southampton district). Sub-districts : Millbrook; St. Mary Extra; South Stoneham. GRO volumes : VII (1837-51); 2c (1852-1924). Bitterne (1837-94), Botley, Burlesdon, Chilworth, Eastleigh, Hamble le Rice, Hedge End, Hound, Itchen, Millbrook, North Stoneham, Portswood (1837-1909), St. Mary Extra, Shirley (1837-1909), Sholling, South Stoneham, West End. Registers now in Southampton district. [From GENUKI - Registration Districts in Hampshire]

In 2002, a Tudgey has a horticultural nursery at Crookham Village, Fleet, Hampshire - link to Tudgey's Nursery.

In June 2003, a new contributor, Hilary Gadsby, related to this family has emailed the Tudgay Mailing list -

My interest in Wiltshire and Tudgey is my grandparents Alfred Wiltshire/ear who married Sarah Alice Tudgey on 16th August 1884 in South Stoneham Registry Office. They were both born in West End his father was George and her father was John Tudgey whose birth in Bramshaw/ Fritham I have been unable to confirm. He was born about the time GRO registration started but I cannot find his birth. When I next get to Hampshire I hope to check for a christening at the record office but being so close to the Wiltshire border he could have been christened in Wiltshire. I have also been unable to find him on the 1851 census for Bramshaw although his parents could be living elsewhere by then. Hilary Gadsby. North Wales born Southampton.
Then
I have the 1881 census information already and am about to send for a birth certificate for my grandmother Sarah Alice in hope of tracing the maiden name of her mother. The exact place of birth for John Tudgey is uncertain as the 1881 census gives his place of birth as Bramshaw whilst 1871 gives Fritham which is near Bramshaw. Sarah, wife of John was born South Stoneham so they probably married in South Stoneham somewhere. I suspect that there is a connection to Zillah's ancestors in Wiltshire particularly given the proximity of Bramshaw to the county boundary. I have information about John Tudgey's other children William and Rosa Ada and also their children so I would be delighted if I can get past John or even find any siblings of John. They seem to have moved a lot as they lived in Alma (now Almatade) Road in Bitterne in 1871 and Rosa Ada was born in Sholing. In 1891 neither of the girls were living with their parents I know that Sarah Alice had married and Rosa Ada married Charles? Gurman as I knew their daughter. William married and had a daughter Kathleen. The 1891 census for Hampshire also has some Tudgay's born in Wiltshire/Dorset but none born in Hampshire and I have been unable to trace anyone else born in Hampshire.
Next - 12 July 2003
I have within the last 2 days found out several interesting facts about my ancestor which may help place him in the tree which Brian has on his website. His wife's maiden name was OTHEN and on the 1861 census he was living with his father in law at Elver Fir Cottage, Shamblehurst, South Stoneham RG9 681 f83 p3 he had a son John Edward Tudgey who was 1 month old on the census and died aged 1yr 8 months on 20th October 1862 and was buried with his grandmother Hannah OTHEN (nee SHOLING) at West End. John married Sarah OTHEN on 7th January 1861 at St Mary's Southampton he was a batchelor, occupation Carpenter of Itchen Ferry which is part of St Mary Extra his father is given as John TUDGEY Gardener and her father Abraham OTHEN was also a gardener. This information was passed on to me by someone researching the OTHEN family and she has also sent me a copy of a transcript of Abraham's will. I will eventually get around to confirming the details myself. All this information from a simple request for help on a mailing list, all thanks to the information on Sarah Alice TUDGEY's copy birth certificate, she was actually born in Thornhill as was John Edward not West End as stated on the 1881 census. If anyone might have a link to John TUDGEY Gardener presumably born early 1800's could they please let me know as I have not managed to trace John TUDGEY Carpenter on the GRO indexes or find his christening.

South Hayling, Hampshire family

Sarah Tudgay, m 23/07/1829, Lymington, Hants [web link to source]

James Tudgey m 10/06/1819
at South Hayling, Hants
source
Ann Derben (Durben)
1800-1825
? 2nd, m 30/07/1827,
at South Hayling
Mary ?
Sarah Tudgay
chr 01/07/1821, at South Hayling, Hants
James Tudgay
chr 11/01/1824, at South Hayling
b 1823, Hampshire, in 1881 Census, for Somerset (see below)
John Tudgay
chr 30/12/1832, South Hayling, Hants
? mother in IGI as Mary
Elizabeth Tudgay
chr 05/04/1835, South Hayling, Hants
George Tudgay
chr 03/02/1839, South Hayling, Hants
not in 1881 Census
Alfred Tudgay
chr 16/05/1841, South Hayling, Hants
mother in IGI as Mary

Anne Derben, died 1825, daughter of John Durben and Martha Brown [web link to source].

Family in Bristol in 1881 Census
James Tudgay, b 1823, Hayling Island, Hants, Dock Gate Man, living at 9 Bathurst Parade, Bedminster, Somerset
Matilda Tudgay, b 1830, Hayling Island, Hants, wife
James Tudgay, b 1853, Bristol, son; christened 23/01/1853, St Mary's Redcliffe, Bristol
George Tudgay, b 1858, Bristol, son, see below


Family of Walton on Thames, Surrey, then of Worcestershire, and back to Walton or north to Whitby

William Tudgy m Mary Fawlett, 05/09/1752, Fovant, Wilts (ex Gr Tudgey)

Henry Tudgey (Tudgy) m
08/06/1829
at Walton on Thames, Surrey
(ex Gr Tudgey)
Elizabeth Ann Retford
James Tudgy
chr 06/06/1830
Walton on Thames, Surrey
Henry Robert Tudgy
chr 04/10/1835
at Walton on Thames, Surrey
(HRT)
Alfred Thomas Tudgy
chr 21/07/1839
at Walton on Thames, Surrey
Elizabeth Tudgy
chr 06/06/1841
at Walton on Thames, Surrey
Mary Ann Emily Tudgy
chr 28/04/1844
at Walton on Thames, Surrey
(Emily)
Edward Tudgy
chr 28/02/1847
at Walton on Thames, Surrey
(EdT0 see below)
Henry, a Seaman, and Hannah were living at 23 William St, Stranton, Durham
in the 1881 Census
Henry Tudgy
b 1837, Esher, Surrey
in the 1881 Census
living in Durham
head
Hannah Mary Tudgy
b 1838, Whitby,Yorks, wife
in 1901 living with her son (below) in West Hartlepool, Durham
(HRT spouse)
Emily Tudgy
b 1844, Hersham, Surrey
in the 1881 Census
unmarried, "daur." (?)
living at Downs Cottages, Leatherhead, Surrey
home of Richard Crockford
in the 1901 Census
Emily Tudgey
aged 50, born Hersham, Surrey
living in Cheshunt, Herts
no occupation given
Edward Tudgay
b 1846, Surrey
in the 1881 Census
living in Hallow, Worcs
see below
William Henry Tudgy
b 1859, Whitby, Yorks, son, 1881 Census for Durham;
1901 Census as born in Whitby, Yorks, a sailmaker living in West Hartlepool, Durham
apparently no offspring
(HRT1)
Elizabeth Mary Tudgy
b 1861, Whitby, Yorks, daughter, 1881 Census for Durham
(HRT2)
Philip Ross Tudgy
chr 02/08/1863
at Walton on Thames, Surrey
(illegitimate son)

Philip Ross Tudgey - the IGI gives the mother of Philip Ross Tudgy chr 02/08/1863 at Walton on Thames, Surrey as being Mary Ann Emily TUDGY, chr 28/04/1844 at Walton on Thames, Surrey (Emily). Her mother Elizabeth Ann RETFORD married Richard CROCKFORD after the death of Henry TUDGY, Emily's father. Hersham is linked with Walton on Thames, so the fact of being born at Hersham and chr. at Walton on Thames is OK. (from Zillah July 2003, who wonders what happened to Philip Ross Tudg(e)y)

Family of Edward Tudgey (EDT0)
Edward Tudgey, 23, bachelor, a gardener, at Hallow, Worcestershire, (father's name Henry Tudgey a farmer) became the second husband of Elizabeth Wilks (neé Young) on 28/08/1870 at the Chapel of Hallow in the Parish of Grimley cum ? Hallow in the county of Worcester web link to source. After Elizabeth died, her daughter Emily Wilks married her stepfather Edward Tudgey on August 20th 1883 at St Pauls Church, in the Parish of Balsall Heath in the county of Worcester. Edward was 36, a widower, a nurseryman, resident at Balsall Heath at the time of the marriage.

Sometime after the birth of Emily Mary Tudgey, b 01/09/1883, first child of Edward Tudgey and Emily Tudgey (neé Wilks), who was the grandmother of Zillah Williams of Canberra Email, the family moved back to Walton on Thames being there by 1887.

In the 1881 Census the family of Edward Tudgey, gardener and domestic servant, was living at Packington Road, Hallow, Worcestershire.

Edward Tudgey
b Walton on Thames
ca 1846
(EdT0)
m (1) 28/08/1870, at Hallow, Worcs (M Cert) Elizabeth (Wilks née) Young (1st)
Elizabeth Tudgey, b 1835, Hallow, Worcs, wife, in 1881 Census for Worcs
m (2) 20/08/1883, at Balsall Heath, Worcs. (M Cert) Emily Wilks
(daughter of Elizabeth Young/Wilks)
(EdT spouse 2)
see below
Mary (May) Tudgey
b 1872, Hallow, Worcs
daughter, 1881 Census for Worcs
(EdT.1)
Amy Ellen Tudgey
chr 29/12/1872, Hallow, Worcs
daughter, 1881 Census for Worcs
(EdT.2)
Alfred Edward Tudgey
chr 30/08/1874, Hallow, Worcs
also in 1881 Census for Worcs
(EdT.3)
Annie E Tudgay
b 1876, Hallow, Worcs
daughter, 1881 Census for Worcs
(EdT.4)
In 1901 Census
Alfred Tudgay
aged 26
born Hallow
occupation Farmer Driver
living in Islington, London
?Modern family in area southwest of Birmingham Louisa Tudgey
aged 25
born Paddington London
(EdT.3 spouse)
Helen Tudgey
aged 11 months
born Henton Admiral, Hants
(EdT3.1)

Second marriage of Edward Tudgey 1846 -, from 1901 Census

Edward Tudgey m 2 Emily Wilks
(EdT0.spouse 2)
Emily Mary Tudgey
b 01/09/1883
in Birmingham
(EdT.5)
Richard Tudgey
b ca 1887
Walton on Thames
(EdT.6)
Edward Tudgey
b ca 1889
Walton on Thames
(EdT.7)
Frederick Tudgey
b ca 1890
Walton on Thames
(EdT.8)
(? same)
Emily Mary Tudgey
m Ernest William Smith, 21/12/1904
at St Marks, Christchurch, Hants
(M Cert)

Tudgay/Tudgey families of London

Ann Tudgey, m William Lee, 23/08/1806, at St Botolph, Bishopsgate, London
John Tudgay m Elizabeth Miller, on 1/4/1820, at St Saviour, Southwark web link to source
The only John Tudgay who might be a candidate for the origin of this John is from Kingston Deverill {short description of image}, but he is recorded as marrying in Kingston Deverill. If, however, that was a first marriage, it seems reasonable for John, Jr., sailmaker, to be his son from the first marriage (i.e born ca 1814)

The new A2A catalogue (Access to Archives at link) has
Cobb of Margate, Family and Business Papers
In the East Kent Archives - Catalogue Ref. EK-U1453 - BUSINESS PAPERS - Shipping, Salvage and the Coal Trade - General correspondence
FILE - Tudgay, John & Son of London - ref. EK-U1453/B5/4/1318 - date: 1822

John Tudgay
m 24/04/1836
Anne Ottys
at St Nicholas, Cole Abbey, London
?
John Tudgay, Jun.
Wapping, Sail Maker
record of 22/11/1826
web link to source
presumably painting for a hobby or living by 1851
speculatively
second wife Emily Tudgey
b 1824
d 23/05/1885
buried Abney Park
(see below)
= Amelia née Stewart,
whose son John Tudgy
was christened in 1849
Joshua Tudgey
b 1829
d 02/12/1857
buried Abney Park, London
(see below)
(JoshT)
A Joshua Tudgey, is recorded as a member of the Wiltshire Friendly Society, living at Longbridge Deverell, registered in 1846, ref no 3778 source
Louisa Tudgay
b 1829, London
in 1881 Census, London
Head (?wife of Joshua?)
in 1901 Census
age 65, born Poplar
living in Poplar
(JoshT.spouse)
Julia Tudgay
b 1831
in 1881 Census, London
Born at St Georges, Middlesex,
sister of Louisa living at 1 Baston Street
unmarried
Confectioner
in 1901 Census
age 63, born Poplar and living in Poplar
(JoshT. sis1)
Clara Tudgay
b 1841, London
in 1881 Census for London
living at 1 Baston Street
sister, Confectioner
in 1901 Census
age 60, born Poplar
living in Poplar
Occupation Confectioners Assistant
(JoshT.sis2)
speculatively
elder son
Frederick Tudgay (FT0)
b 1840/41
who became a renowned marine artist
(see below)
speculatively
younger son
John Tudgy
chr 10/06/1849, Coverdale Chapel, Commercial Road-Independent, Limehouse London
Father: John TUDGY Mother: Amelia STEWART
John Tudgay or Fudgay, b 1848, London
1881 Census
Head, occ. Builder
living at
34 Lord Street
North Meols, Lancashire

(Wirral Peninsula)
Sarah J Tudgay or Fudgay
b 1856, Wigan, Lancs, wife
neither seem to be in the 1901 Census (not as Tudgay)*
Joseph H Tudgy
b 1856
d 30/10/1876
buried Abney Park
(see below)
? father of the orphans
William and John
see below

* There is one Fudgay in 1901 but the name is James Fudgay, age 74, living in Warminster - another misspelling?

Frederi(c)k Tudgay (1841-1921), and John L Tudgay marine painters of London, painted singly and together [sample, web link to source "I. Tudgay" painted the Barque Scotland in 1851 [see web link to source]. The "I" may well be John (as above), as that was the style of the day for "J" if written with a median dot.

Commercial Road, Limehouse and Wapping are adjacent areas in the Docklands, obvious places for John & Frederick to have been able to paint ships. St Nicholas Cole Abbey, 114 Queen Victoria St., EC4, London, is near St Pauls and the first church rebuilt by Sir Christopher Wren information link

Abney Park Cemetery, London (Hackney-Stoke Newington-Dalston) web link to source

Name Date Age Burial Section Index
Emily Tudgey 23 May 1885 61y 076904 I09 3S05
Joshua Tudgey 02 Dec 1857 28y 019487 C04 1S09
Joseph H Tudgy 30 Oct 1876 20y 059988 E08 2S11

Possibly sons of Joseph H Tudgy listed in the 1881 Census
William Tudgay, b 1873, Romford, Essex, a scholar, living at South Weald, Essex, as a lodger with Joseph Little, b 1832, at Wight Rothing, Essex, married, farm labourer
John Tudgay, b 1876, Romford, Essex, lodger, Essex - possibly the John Tudgay, age 27, born in London, and living in Carlton, Nottingham, in the 1901 Census, as a Railway Foreman (see also the St German's family, then of Paddington, London).
Presumably these brothers were orphans, as no parents were in Romford

1901 Census for West Ham, London

also see above Occupation Ships Painter Frederick Tudgay
b ca 1840
Limehouse
(FT0)
Hannah Tudgay
b ca 1850
Ireland
(FT0 spouse)
Frederick Tudgay
b ca 1875
Poplar
occupation Ships Steward
(FT.1)
Sarah Tudgay
b ca 1877
Poplar
occupation Schoolmistress
(FT.2)
Norah Tudgay
b ca 1879
Poplar
occupation School Teacher
(FT.3)
Henry Tudgay
b ca 1881
Poplar
occupation Plumbers Apprentice
(FT.4)
James Tudgay
b ca 1886
Stratford
occupation Tin Smith Apprentice
(FT.5)
Arthur Tudgay
b ca 1888
Stratford
at school
(FT.6)

Miscellaneous London records of 1901

Sarah Tudgay, aged 21, born Frome, Somerset, occupation housemaid domestic, at Elgin Avenue, Paddington - she was a daughter of Isaac John Tudgay, living in Tuckmarsh, Somerset, in 1901 {short description of image}


Transient Gloucestershire records (transient) - Dyrham & Hinton in 1881 and Othery, Somerset in 1901

A list of Gloucestershire names in the 17th and 18th Century, taken from the volumes by Ralph Bigland and his record of names by Graham Thomas. [web link to source] has Tudgey in Wotton-under-Edge, Gloucestershire. That was Thomas Tudgey - Link and his son, John, christened there on 13/05/1706 and Samuel christened there in 1729.

In the 1881 Census a single family appeared headed by John Tudgay (john1842dean), living in Dyrham & Hinton, Gloucs; John was recorded as born in Dean, Gloucs, 1841, a dairyman/agricultural labourer; there is no Dean in Gloucestershire, the probable village is on the main Frome road east of Shepton Mallet, in our "homeland area".
The 1901 Census, however, shows this family's stay in Gloucestershire was transient, as they were living in Othery, Somerset. Othery is some 21 miles southwest of Shepton Mallet Map of main Wiltshire/Somerset area. Note that Alfred was born in Dyrham, Gloucestershire.

John Tudgay, b 1841, Gloucs, Head; in 1901, he aged 59, was recorded as born in Dean(e), Somerset, occupation Dairyman
Jane Tudgay, b 1839, Rimpton, Somerset; in 1901, she was aged 62, born in Rimpton Somerset, occupation Dairywoman
George Tudgay, b 1871, Thorne Coffin, Somerset, son; not in 1901 Census there or anywhere else
Jane Tudgay, b 1873, Othery, Somerset, daughter; not in 1901 Census
Caroline Tudgay, b 1875, Othery, Somerset, daughter; not in 1901 Census, although there is a Caroline, aged 20, birthplace unknown, Census place not given, a Dairyman's daughter.
Henry Tudgay, b 1876, ?Othery, Somerset, son; in 1901 Census, aged 28, born in South Othery, occupation Dairyman
William Tudgay, b 1877, Chilton Trinity, Somerset, son; in 1901 Census, aged 24, born in Chilton Trinity, Somerset; occupation Dairyman
Louisa Tudgay, b 1878, Chilton Trinity, Somerset, daughter; in 1901 Census, aged 23, occupation Dairywoman
Alfred Tudgay, b 1881, Dyrham, Gloucs, son; in 1901 Census, aged 20, born in Dyrham, Gloucestershire; emigrated to Canada {short description of image}, died in World War I, see below.

In the 1901 Census there appears Rose Tudgay, aged 28, born in Othery, presumably the wife or widow of one of the sons.


Those who died in the First World War

TUDGAY Albert Driver R.A.S.C. Frome {short description of image}
TUDGAY Alfred Private Canadian Exped. Force Othery {short description of image}
TUDGAY Theodore Frank Private Somerset L.I. Salisbury {short description of image}
TUDGAY William Walter Private Somerset L.I. West Lydford {short description of image}

From: "Dale Lidbury"
To: "Roy-Val"
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Frome] Frome's Fallen Heroes
Hi Val
There are two TUDGAY's in the book:-

TUDGAY Albert
Driver. T4/110349. Army Service Corps
Drowned at sea. 2nd June 1917 age 40
Driver Albert Tudgay was born at Kingston Deverill, Wiltshire, the son of Thomas and Eliza Tudgay, of Kingston Deverill, Wiltshire, and husband of Sarah Ann Tudgay of 48 West Woodlands, Frome. Albert drowned at sea from the Hired Transport Ship 'Cameronian'. For fifteen years previous he worked for a Miss Pickford, of Frome as a carter, and had joined the army early 1915, training for 12 months in Yorkshire, before going out with mule transport to Salonika, where he had been since January 1917. Albert was married for 17 years, and left four sons and a daughter aged between 5 and 16 years old. He is commemorated on the Chatby Memorial, Egypt. His name appears on the Frome War memorial.

TUDGAY Theodore Frank
Private. 28994. 7th Battalion Prince Albert's (Somerset Light Infantry)
Killed in Action 26th March 1918 aged around 23.
Private Theodore Frank Tudgay was born in Salisbury, Wiltshire, and was the son of William and Eliza Tudgay of 7 Hussey's Almshouses, Castle Street, Salisbury, Wiltshire. Theodore was well known in the Frome area, and worked as a gardener for Mr. H.S. Davy, of Somerleaze, Frome, and joined the army three years before he met his death, when he was 20 years old. He went out to France in early 1917, and in July of 1917 was wounded, and spent four months in hospital. He is buried at Foreste Communal Cemetery, Aisne, France. Memorial 23. His name does not appear on the Frome War Memorial.

There are no grave photos for either man, but there is a photo of Theodore Frank Tudgay.

Best Wishes Dale


MIscellaneous others

Charles Tudgay (?) m. Bessie Sterry, 1870 web link to source


Most information collated by Zillah Williams and Jeff Tudge


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