Miscellaneous Tudgay and Tudgey families
As the genealogical records of an ordinary family are patchy at best, some of what follows is my best guess based on recurrence of names and closely matching dates. I have tried to ensure my speculations are indicated, such as by ? preceding a name.
It seems that all derive from the
families of Longbridge Deverill, Wiltshire
Map of the Somerset/Wiltshire homeland of the Tudgay families
Early records from Frome, Somerset
Records of the Longleat Estate holdings in Frome (source) have No 15 Bath Street as leased in 1654 for 99 years to Thomas TUDGAY, baker, on the lives of his wife Margaret and their children Constance and Thomas. Rent 4s p.a. Then in 1680 to Timothy CHAPMAN, clothworker, for the lives of himself, Constance his wife (perhaps the daughter of Thomas TUDGAY) and their son Thomas [1]. In 1733, however, the lease passed to John CARPENTER, cardmaker, for the lives of William, son of William CARPENTER, shearman, John CARPENTER and William his son.
John Tudgay, m Ann Pane, on
13/05/1706, at Frome Selwood, Somerset. He may well have been the second
son of Joseph Tudgey of Longbridge Deverill, Wiltshire. If it is the right
John, then he had a younger brother, b 1690, named Benjamin.
backward link
| Benjamin Tudgay | Betty (?Elizabeth) | ||
| John Tudgay b 1751, Frome m Hannah Parsons 05/08/1776 at Frome ? d. 1808 in Frome Workhouse |
Hester Tudgay b 1753 m 15/09/1774, at Frome |
Elizabeth Tudgay chr 29/03/1760, at Frome |
Anne Tudgay chr 16/04/1763, at Frome (Parents: Father: Benjamin TUDGAY Mother: Betty) |
| Sarah Tudgday b 20/04/1777 baptised 19/09/1795 St John's Frome |
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In ?late 18C, John Tudgay was a tenant at Friggle Street Mill, Frome web link to source
The 1785 Battle & Creese "census" of Frome shows John Tudgay, a shoemaker, living in Broad Street. The household contained 2 males and 2 females, houseowner was Mrs Webb.
From Baptism records of St John's Frome
| John Tudgay | Rosanna (Rose) | ||||||
| Nancy Tudgay baptised 09/09/1775 |
Mary Tudgay baptised 10/01/1777 |
Frederick Tudgay baptised 25/12/1789 |
Susanna Tudgay b 09/1787 baptised 25/12/1789 |
William Tudgay b 03/1783 baptised 25/12/1789 |
Prudence Tudgay baptised 02/11/1791 |
Piety Tudgay baptised 02/11/1791 |
Prudence Tudgay baptised 1793 |
Jeremiah Tudgay, son of James and Anne Tudgay, baptised 10/01/1777. Jeremiah Tudguy married 17/02/1800 to Mary Ramson of Whately, witnesses T Jones & John Deacon.
The Additional
rates for Frome Town Tithing, 1827 has the following :-
John Tudgay living in Clink, house owned by James Green
James Tudgay living in Ennox Hill, house owned by Francis Herman
Susan Tudgay living in Broadway and Cottles Oak, house owned by
Mrs Church
? Tudgay, living in Catherine Street, house owned by Mrs Burgess
Pigot's Directory for 1842 and 1844 also had John Tudgay, shopkeeper, in Duke Street [source]
Betty Tudgay a Widow, whose house contained 2 males & 3
females also was in Broad Street
What looks like a Mr Tudgay is shown as owner of a house occupied
by Mary DUTCH a spinner.
William Tudgay, m Sarah Hooper, on 24/06/1819, at St John's Frome [web link to source] - son of John & Rosanna, see above.
"Some believe that the name of Frome derived from the Celtic word, ffraw, meaning fair or brisk. In 685 AD a group of monks led by a man known as the Abbot of Malmesbury and Bishop of Serbourne ( one in the same person ) built a wooden church dedicated to John the Baptist. In 690 AD this church had developed into a monastery and served as the foundation for the city of Frome. In 1086 AD entries made in the Doomsday Book by the Norman assessors noted that Frome had a thriving town, a weekly market, three mills and the hunting forest of Selwood ( reserved for the king who owned the manor ). Frome ( or Frome Selwood ) is in the east of Somerset and west of Wiltshire and nestles in the foothills of the Mendips. The terrain is ideal for the raising of sheep and the woolen industry grew and prospered on the basis of this during the 17th and 18th centuries. By 1823 Frome was suffering from the results of mill automation and lost trade to Bradford in Yorkshire. Diversification was the key to survival and over the following centuries Frome developed its reputation as a cloth producing town as well as a collection point for the output of local villages. By 1852, our ancestors, Charles Randell and Emily Hawkins, had moved from nearby Warminster to live in Gentle Street, Frome, and in the same year they were married in Frome Church Selwood. Charles was a Coach painter by trade and Emily worked as a Silk Spinner. Steam power had already been introduced to the mills of Frome in 1811 and the woolen industry continued to hold its own but with a lesser demand for labour. Frome also had a station on the Weymouth branch of the Great Western railway and rail travel was becoming more popular to those unwilling to travel by coach and horse along the unkept highways of Somerset and Wiltshire. The Coaching businesses were becoming far from prosperous and this may have encouraged Charles and Emily's next move when they looked at the promise of more abundant permanent work in London". Extract from - http://www.clrandall.freeserve.co.uk/randall_family_tree4.htm
It seems the 1871 Census of Frome has no one with the name Tudgay, Tudgey, Tudgee, etc. source
Similarly, there were none in Frome in the 1881 Census.
Others recorded as born in Somerset
James Plank, b. ca 1786, (at Bethnal Green?), went to Shepton Mallet, Somerset, with his father (Stephen Plank ex Bethnal Green), and met Amy Tudgay. They married 08/11/1813 at Pilton. They had no children but Amy already had an illegitimate daughter, Eliza, b. ca 1808. James died of a fever at Shepton Mallet in 1838. The Poor Law records for Haslemere in 1838 have a settlement examination for Amy that was dated 4 days after James died. Amy outlived her husband by nearly 40 years. She was 92 when she died at Bruton (Somerset) in 1877. web link to source.
Fanny Tudgey, chr 05/11/1810, Wesleyan, Bath, Somerset
Harriet Tudgay, b 10/07/1814, Wanstrow, Somerset; Harriet Tudgay, m 02/09/1838, at East Cranmore, Somerset.
In the 1841 Census there was only one Tudgay living in Bath.
"Transcriptions from the Calendar of Wills and Administrations
(Kicked off by Ed) This is just a beginning, These are for the name of
Strange and Strainge in the indexes to the Principal Registry of Probate
(1858-1861) [source]"
include - Elizabeth Strange. Effects under £20. 7 January.
The Will of Elizabeth Strange late of 5 Albion-place in the City of Bath
Widow deceased who died 23 December 1864 at 5 Albion-place aforesaid was
proved at Bristol by the oath of James Tudgee Strange of 5
Albion-place aforesaid Grocer the son the sole Executor.
James Tudgee Strange of 16 Stall-street Bath
provision-merchant's-assistant died 20 Sept 1901. Probate Bristol 13 Nov
to Henry Rex provision-merchant's-assistant. Effects £114. The only
obvious candidate is Elizabeth Tudgay, m Stephen Garrett (Garratt),
05/02/1809, Kingston Deverill, Wilts
link
Family or Families living in Beckington, Somerset in 1881 and Frome
Selwood in 1901 Census
Family of Abraham Tudgay (abe1837wilts) - ex Kingston Deverill,
moved ca 1866, eldest son of Stephen Tudgay, of Kingston Deverill
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| living in Goose Street, Beckington, in 1881 |
General Labourer living in Frome in 1901 |
Abraham Tudgay b 1837 Kingston Deverill, Wilts |
m 01/01/1862 Kingston Deverill |
Louisa Marshall b 1836 Kingston Deverill, Wilts |
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| Henry W Tudgay b 1863 Kingston Deverill (1881 Census not 1901) |
Rose Tudgay b 1864 Kingston Deverill in 1881 Census for Frome (below) |
Mary Tudgay b 1866 Kingston Deverill in 1881 Census |
Edward Tudgay b 1867 Whatley, Somerset in 1881 Census & 1901 |
Frank Tudgay b 1872 Whatley Somerset in 1881 Census in 1901 married living in Newton St Loe (below) |
Sarah Tudgay b 1874 Whatley/Marston, Somerset in 1881 & 1901 Census |
?Annie Tudgay b 1877 Whatley/Beckington, Somerset in 1881 & 1901 Census |
Charles Tudgay b 1880 Beckington, Somerset in 1881 & 1901 Census |
Lily Tudgay b 1880 |
| spouse? | ? | |||||||
| Harry Tudgay, aged 6, born Spring Gardens, Frome | Linda Tudgay, aged 5 months, born W Woodlands, Frome |
Rose Tudgay, b 1864, Wilts, daughter; also as Servant; note - Rose Tudgay, in 1881 Census of Frome, living at 25 Market Place, Frome, as a general domestic servant to the Singer family, unmarried, aged 17, born Kingston Deverill [source http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~druce9/market1.htm]
1901 Census -
Abraham Tudgay, b 1837, Kingston Deverill, Wilts, Head; in 1901
Census, aged 65, born Kingston Deverill, occupation General Labourer; in
the 1881 Census the family was living at Goose Street, Beckington,
Somerset; Alfred was an Agricultural Labourer
Louisa Tudgay, b 1836, Kingston Deverill, Wilts, wife; Louisa
Tudgay, aged 52, born in Mells, Somerset, was Housekeeper at Membland
Hall, Holbeton Parish, in the 1891 Census for Devon; in 1901 Census, aged
65, born in Kingston Deverill
Abraham Tudgay (Tudgey), m Louisa Marshall, 01/01/1862,
Kingston Deverill, Wilts
Henry W Tudgay, b 1863, Kingston Deverill, son, in 1881 Census,
living at Goose Street, Beckington, Somerset - Brewer's Labourer, not in
1901 Census
Edward Tudgay, b 1867, Somerset, son; in 1901 Census, aged 32,
born Whatley (west of Frome), Somerset, occupation Cattleman on farm
Annie Tudgay, aged 24, born Beckington, Somerset, in 1901,
occupation Domestic Servant
Charles Tudgay, b 1880, Somerset, son; in 1901, aged 21, born at
Beckington, Somerset, occupation Printers Labourer
Lily Tudgay, b 1880, Wilts, daughter; not in 1901 Census
Harry Tudgay, aged 6, born Spring Gardens, Frome
Linda Tudgay, aged 5 months, born W Woodlands, Frome
Family in Newton St Loe in 1901
Frank Tudgay, aged 29, born Whatley, Somerset, occupation
Cattleman on farm
Emma Tudgay, aged 52, born in Bath
Family in Bristol in 1901 Census -
George, son of George Tudgay, third son of Stephen Tudgay (1810-1880) of
Kingston Deverill ![]()
George Tudgey, age 43, born in Bristol (an error??) and living in
Bristol, occupation, Dock Gate man
Sarah Tudgey, age 45, also born and living in Bristol
James Tudgey, age 15, also born and living in Bristol, occupation,
Tobacco Packer
Annie Tudgey, age 7, also born and living in Bristol
NOTE - George Tudgey, b 1858, was living at No 32, Village,
Kingston Deverill, in the 1881 Cansus, with Sarah Tudgey, b 1816,
widow of Stephen Tudgey (1810-1880). Presumably, he was her grandson.
Others in the 1881 Census for Somerset
9 Bathurst Parade, Bedminster, Somerset
Charles Tudgay, b 1855, Bristol, Head, Baker
Celia K Tudgay, b 1857, Pill, Somerset, wife
(neither in 1901 Census)
Garston, Mells, Somerset
John Tudgay, b 1851, Kingston Deverill, Wilts, lodger, farm
labourer
John was living in the house of William Stacey, b Upton Scudumore,
Wiltshire, England, age 37, Occupation Groom Unemployed Out Pensioner
Chelsea (8), Married
He was a son of Stephen Tudgay and by 1901 was married and living at
Tuckmarsh in Somerset ![]()
39 Butts Hill, Frome
Walter Tudgay, b 1863, Kingston Deverill, Wilts, unmarried,
carter, lodger in home of Maria Deacon, aged 74, widowed, Green Grocer
occupation carter [also see source
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~druce9/buttshill1.htm]
20 Bathwick Hill, Bathwick, Somerset
Mary Tudgay, b 1855, Kingston Neville, Wilts, servant; cook for
Annie C Fenton, b 1833, on board ship, widowed with income from a pension,
head of household
1881 Census family of Lydford, Dorset, ex
Monkton Deverill and Milton Clevedon (tree deduced from 1901 Census)
Henry Tudgay, b 1855, Monkton
Farleigh, Wilts, Head, House By The Line, Lamyatt, Dorset, Farm
Labourer
Henrietta Tudgay, b 1856, Dublin, Ireland, wife
Mary Annie Tudgay, b 1877, Monkton Deverill, Wilts, daughter
Catherine Tudgay, b 1877, Monkton Deverill, Wilts, daughter
Lily Tudgay, b 1880, Boreham, Wilts, daughter
| Henry Tudgay b ca 1855 at Monkton Deverill (Henry1856md) |
m | Henrietta ?? b ca 1856 Dublin, Ireland (Henry1856mdsp) |
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| Annie Tudgay b ca 1876 Monkton Deverill (Henry1856md) |
Catherine Tudgay b 1877, Monkton Deverill, Wilts (not in 1901 census) |
Lily Tudgay b 1880, Boreham, Wilts (not in 1901 census) |
Bessie Tudgay b ca 1881 Milton Clevedon (Henry1856md2) |
Walter Tudgay b ca 1883 Milton Clevedon (Henry1856md3) |
Charlie Tudgay b ca 1885 Milton Clevedon (Henry1856md4) |
John Tudgay b ca 1890 Milton Clevedon (Henry1856md5) |
Herbert Tudgay b ca 1893 West Lydford (Henry1856md6) |
Eveline Tudgay b ca 1895 West Lydford (Henry1856md7) |
Susan Tudgay b ca 1897 West Lydford (Henry1856md8) |
Harry Tudgay b 25/01/1904 d 08/1977, Ohio, USA |
Henry John Tudgay, b ca 1890, and Herbert Tudgay, b ca
1894, both emigrated from Lydford, Somerset, to De Kalb, Illinois, USA
.
Also emigrated Harry Tudgay, b 25/01/1904, d 08/1977, Ohio; I
guess he was a younger brother of Henry John and Herbert.
William Walter Tudgay, died in the first World War
see below
| Joseph Tudgee | m | Rose? |
| Rosanna Tudgee, chr 02/01/1756,
at Frampton, Dorset; ? Rose Tudgey, m 15/06/1780, at Long Bredy,
Dorset, to William Kellaway; Rose Tudgay (Tudgey) m William Callaway
(Kellaway), 1780, Dorset |
Sarah Tudgee, chr 24/05/1761,
at Frampton, Dorset |
Catherine Tudgee, chr
05/01/1764, at Frampton, Dorset Parents: Father: Joseph TUDGEE Mother: Rose |
Further Dorset family - in 1881 Census for
Dorset, living in Challow Dairy House, Corfe Castle
from Kingston Deverill and went to Woking, Surrey
pre-1901
David Tudgay, b 1846, Kingstone, Wilts, Head; in 1901 Census,
David Tudgay, age 51, born Kingston Deverill, living at Woking, Surrey,
occupation Stockman in Farm;
Elizabeth Tudgay, b 1848, Penneard, Somerset, wife; in 1901
Census, Elizabeth Tudgay, age 50, born Penneard, Somerset, living at
Woking
Herbert G Tudgay, b 1875, Buckhorn Weston, Dorset, son; no one
called Herbert was in the 1901 Census
but may well have been Albert = A Tudgay - see below, born
Buckhorn Weston
Edna F Tudgay, b 1877, Dorset, daughter, born at Buckhorn Weston,
Dorset
Osmand Tudgay, b 1879, Mere, Wilts, son; in 1901 Osmond was a
Police Constable living in Portswood, Southampton
In 1901 only David & Elizabeth were living at Woking.
In 1881, Annie A. Tudgay, b 1854, ?, unmarried, servant, The Square, Gillingham, Dorset, household of Annie Davis
In 1901, Annie Tudgay, age 44, born in Kingston Deverill, was a
domestic cook in Bournemouth.
Also in Bournemouth, as a Domestic help, was Lillie Tudgay,
age 29, born in Deverill.
Family of A Tudgay of Haselbury Bryan,
Dorset in 1901 Census
A Tudgay, aged 28, born Buckhorn Weston, Dorest, occupation Police
Constable (adorset1873)
Annie Tudgay, aged 26, born Spitisbury, Dorset
Doretta Tudgay, aged 5, born Broadmayne, Dorset
Florence Tudgay, aged 4, born Wyke Regis, Dorset
Hilda Tudgay, aged 2, born Wyke Regis, Dorest
Albert Tudgay, aged 11 months, born Haselbury Bryan, Dorset
Also
Emily Lily Louise Tudgay, b 10/03/1902, Beaminster, Dorset
Hampshire Tudgey family members
James Tudgy, m Sarah Grove 12/07/1789 at Milford on Sea, Hants;
possibly from Broad Chalk, Wiltshire
| ?? | is John on John jr wedding certificate then a Gardener |
James/John Tudgey | Mary ? | ||
| Sarah Tudgey m 04/12/1852, at St. Marys, Portsea, Hants |
Ann Tudgey b 1833, Hordle, Hants; Ann Tudgey, m Henry Brewer 18/09/1862, at Hordle, Hants mother Rachael, father not given |
John Tudgey b 1838 Fritham/Bramshaw, Hants, head, in 1881 Census for Hants |
Alfred Tudgey chr 15/02/1841, Fareham, Hants parents James and Mary (?not in 1881 Census) |
Henry Tudgey chr 09/03/1843, Fareham, Hants (? not in 1881 Census) |
Elizabeth Tudgey m 16/04/1860, at Alverstoke, Hants |
| 1861 Census living at South Stoneham | Bachelor occupation Carpenter of Itchen Ferry, St Mary Extra, Southampton |
m 07/01/1861 St Mary's Southampton |
Sarah Othen b 1833, South Stoneham/West End, Hants |
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| 1871 living in Alma Road, Bitterne | Sarah Tudgey in 1881 Census for Hants |
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| John Edward
Tudgey b 02/1861 d 20/10/1862 at West End |
Sarah Alice
Tudgey b 1863 Thornhill (b cert) Census - West End, Hants |
William Tudgey b 1865 West End, Hants |
Rosa Ada Tudgey b 1872 Sholing, Hants |
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| m Alfred Wiltshire 16/08/1884 South Stoneham |
m Nora ??, b 1872 in 1901 living in Bitterne |
m Charles? Gurman | |||
| dau Kathleen Tudgey | |||||
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1881 Census - Stoney Road, South Stoneham, Hampshire (now in
Swaythling Parish, north Southampton)
(Family of John Tudgey, b 1838, Bramshaw, Hants, a carpenter, and
Sarah Tudgey
Alice Tudgey, b 1863, West End, Hants, daughter
William Tudgey, b 1865, West End, Hants, son
Rosa Ada Tudgey, b 1872, Sholing, Hants
The
1901 Census has William Tudgey, age 36, with his wife Nora,
age 29, both born in Southampton and living in Bitterne, Southampton.
William was a Carpenter & Joiner Handyman.
Fritham and Bramshaw are west of Southampton (off the B3708, actually just off a direct road route to Broad Chalk, via Fordingbridge, see map above); West End, Sholing and Bitterne are all now in the eastern suburbs of Southampton; Fareham is east of Southampton.
South Stoneham - Created 1st July 1837. Abolished 1st January 1925 (incorporated into Southampton district). Sub-districts : Millbrook; St. Mary Extra; South Stoneham. GRO volumes : VII (1837-51); 2c (1852-1924). Bitterne (1837-94), Botley, Burlesdon, Chilworth, Eastleigh, Hamble le Rice, Hedge End, Hound, Itchen, Millbrook, North Stoneham, Portswood (1837-1909), St. Mary Extra, Shirley (1837-1909), Sholling, South Stoneham, West End. Registers now in Southampton district. [From GENUKI - Registration Districts in Hampshire]
In 2002, a Tudgey has a horticultural nursery at Crookham Village, Fleet, Hampshire - link to Tudgey's Nursery.
In June 2003, a new contributor, Hilary Gadsby, related to this family has emailed the Tudgay Mailing list -
My interest in Wiltshire and Tudgey is my grandparents Alfred Wiltshire/ear who married Sarah Alice Tudgey on 16th August 1884 in South Stoneham Registry Office. They were both born in West End his father was George and her father was John Tudgey whose birth in Bramshaw/ Fritham I have been unable to confirm. He was born about the time GRO registration started but I cannot find his birth. When I next get to Hampshire I hope to check for a christening at the record office but being so close to the Wiltshire border he could have been christened in Wiltshire. I have also been unable to find him on the 1851 census for Bramshaw although his parents could be living elsewhere by then. Hilary Gadsby. North Wales born Southampton.
Then
I have the 1881 census information already and am about to send for a birth certificate for my grandmother Sarah Alice in hope of tracing the maiden name of her mother. The exact place of birth for John Tudgey is uncertain as the 1881 census gives his place of birth as Bramshaw whilst 1871 gives Fritham which is near Bramshaw. Sarah, wife of John was born South Stoneham so they probably married in South Stoneham somewhere. I suspect that there is a connection to Zillah's ancestors in Wiltshire particularly given the proximity of Bramshaw to the county boundary. I have information about John Tudgey's other children William and Rosa Ada and also their children so I would be delighted if I can get past John or even find any siblings of John. They seem to have moved a lot as they lived in Alma (now Almatade) Road in Bitterne in 1871 and Rosa Ada was born in Sholing. In 1891 neither of the girls were living with their parents I know that Sarah Alice had married and Rosa Ada married Charles? Gurman as I knew their daughter. William married and had a daughter Kathleen. The 1891 census for Hampshire also has some Tudgay's born in Wiltshire/Dorset but none born in Hampshire and I have been unable to trace anyone else born in Hampshire.
Next - 12 July 2003
I have within the last 2 days found out several interesting facts about my ancestor which may help place him in the tree which Brian has on his website. His wife's maiden name was OTHEN and on the 1861 census he was living with his father in law at Elver Fir Cottage, Shamblehurst, South Stoneham RG9 681 f83 p3 he had a son John Edward Tudgey who was 1 month old on the census and died aged 1yr 8 months on 20th October 1862 and was buried with his grandmother Hannah OTHEN (nee SHOLING) at West End. John married Sarah OTHEN on 7th January 1861 at St Mary's Southampton he was a batchelor, occupation Carpenter of Itchen Ferry which is part of St Mary Extra his father is given as John TUDGEY Gardener and her father Abraham OTHEN was also a gardener. This information was passed on to me by someone researching the OTHEN family and she has also sent me a copy of a transcript of Abraham's will. I will eventually get around to confirming the details myself. All this information from a simple request for help on a mailing list, all thanks to the information on Sarah Alice TUDGEY's copy birth certificate, she was actually born in Thornhill as was John Edward not West End as stated on the 1881 census. If anyone might have a link to John TUDGEY Gardener presumably born early 1800's could they please let me know as I have not managed to trace John TUDGEY Carpenter on the GRO indexes or find his christening.
South Hayling, Hampshire family
Sarah Tudgay, m 23/07/1829, Lymington, Hants [web link to source]
| James Tudgey | m 10/06/1819 at South Hayling, Hants source |
Ann Derben (Durben) 1800-1825 |
? 2nd, m 30/07/1827, at South Hayling |
Mary ? | |
| Sarah Tudgay chr 01/07/1821, at South Hayling, Hants |
James Tudgay chr 11/01/1824, at South Hayling b 1823, Hampshire, in 1881 Census, for Somerset (see below) |
John Tudgay chr 30/12/1832, South Hayling, Hants ? mother in IGI as Mary |
Elizabeth Tudgay chr 05/04/1835, South Hayling, Hants |
George Tudgay chr 03/02/1839, South Hayling, Hants not in 1881 Census |
Alfred Tudgay chr 16/05/1841, South Hayling, Hants mother in IGI as Mary |
Anne Derben, died 1825, daughter of John Durben and Martha Brown [web link to source].
Family in Bristol in 1881 Census
James Tudgay, b 1823, Hayling Island, Hants, Dock Gate Man, living
at 9 Bathurst Parade, Bedminster, Somerset
Matilda Tudgay, b 1830, Hayling Island, Hants, wife
James Tudgay, b 1853, Bristol, son; christened 23/01/1853, St
Mary's Redcliffe, Bristol
George Tudgay, b 1858, Bristol, son, see below
Family of Walton on Thames, Surrey, then of Worcestershire, and back
to Walton or north to Whitby
William Tudgy m Mary Fawlett, 05/09/1752, Fovant, Wilts (ex Gr Tudgey)
Philip Ross Tudgey - the IGI gives the mother of Philip Ross Tudgy chr 02/08/1863 at Walton on Thames, Surrey as being Mary Ann Emily TUDGY, chr 28/04/1844 at Walton on Thames, Surrey (Emily). Her mother Elizabeth Ann RETFORD married Richard CROCKFORD after the death of Henry TUDGY, Emily's father. Hersham is linked with Walton on Thames, so the fact of being born at Hersham and chr. at Walton on Thames is OK. (from Zillah July 2003, who wonders what happened to Philip Ross Tudg(e)y)
Family of Edward Tudgey (EDT0)
Edward Tudgey, 23, bachelor, a gardener, at Hallow,
Worcestershire, (father's name Henry Tudgey a farmer) became
the second husband of Elizabeth Wilks (neé Young) on
28/08/1870 at the Chapel of Hallow in the Parish of Grimley cum ? Hallow
in the county of Worcester
web link to source.
After Elizabeth died, her daughter Emily Wilks married her
stepfather Edward Tudgey on August 20th 1883 at St Pauls Church,
in the Parish of Balsall Heath in the county of Worcester. Edward was 36,
a widower, a nurseryman, resident at Balsall Heath at the time of the
marriage.
Sometime after the birth of Emily Mary Tudgey, b 01/09/1883, first child of Edward Tudgey and Emily Tudgey (neé Wilks), who was the grandmother of Zillah Williams of Canberra Email, the family moved back to Walton on Thames being there by 1887.
In the 1881 Census the family of Edward Tudgey, gardener and domestic servant, was living at Packington Road, Hallow, Worcestershire.
Second marriage of Edward Tudgey 1846 -, from 1901 Census
| Edward Tudgey | m 2 | Emily Wilks (EdT0.spouse 2) |
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| Emily Mary Tudgey b 01/09/1883 in Birmingham (EdT.5) |
Richard Tudgey b ca 1887 Walton on Thames (EdT.6) |
Edward Tudgey b ca 1889 Walton on Thames (EdT.7) |
Frederick Tudgey b ca 1890 Walton on Thames (EdT.8) |
| (? same) Emily Mary Tudgey m Ernest William Smith, 21/12/1904 at St Marks, Christchurch, Hants (M Cert) |
Tudgay/Tudgey families of London
Ann Tudgey, m William Lee, 23/08/1806, at St
Botolph, Bishopsgate, London
John Tudgay m Elizabeth Miller, on 1/4/1820, at St
Saviour, Southwark web
link to source
The only John Tudgay who might be a candidate for the origin of this John
is from Kingston Deverill
,
but he is recorded as marrying in Kingston Deverill. If, however, that was
a first marriage, it seems reasonable for John, Jr., sailmaker, to be his
son from the first marriage (i.e born ca 1814)
The new A2A catalogue (Access to Archives at
link) has
Cobb of Margate, Family and Business Papers
In the East Kent Archives - Catalogue Ref. EK-U1453 - BUSINESS PAPERS -
Shipping, Salvage and the Coal Trade - General correspondence
FILE - Tudgay, John & Son of London - ref. EK-U1453/B5/4/1318
- date: 1822
| John Tudgay m 24/04/1836 Anne Ottys at St Nicholas, Cole Abbey, London ? John Tudgay, Jun. Wapping, Sail Maker record of 22/11/1826 web link to source presumably painting for a hobby or living by 1851 |
speculatively second wife Emily Tudgey b 1824 d 23/05/1885 buried Abney Park (see below) = Amelia née Stewart, whose son John Tudgy was christened in 1849 |
Joshua
Tudgey b 1829 d 02/12/1857 buried Abney Park, London (see below) (JoshT) A Joshua Tudgey, is recorded as a member of the Wiltshire Friendly Society, living at Longbridge Deverell, registered in 1846, ref no 3778 source |
Louisa Tudgay b 1829, London in 1881 Census, London Head (?wife of Joshua?) in 1901 Census age 65, born Poplar living in Poplar (JoshT.spouse) |
Julia Tudgay b 1831 in 1881 Census, London Born at St Georges, Middlesex, sister of Louisa living at 1 Baston Street unmarried Confectioner in 1901 Census age 63, born Poplar and living in Poplar (JoshT. sis1) |
Clara Tudgay b 1841, London in 1881 Census for London living at 1 Baston Street sister, Confectioner in 1901 Census age 60, born Poplar living in Poplar Occupation Confectioners Assistant (JoshT.sis2) |
| speculatively elder son Frederick Tudgay (FT0) b 1840/41 who became a renowned marine artist (see below) |
speculatively younger son John Tudgy chr 10/06/1849, Coverdale Chapel, Commercial Road-Independent, Limehouse London Father: John TUDGY Mother: Amelia STEWART John Tudgay or Fudgay, b 1848, London 1881 Census Head, occ. Builder living at 34 Lord Street North Meols, Lancashire (Wirral Peninsula) Sarah J Tudgay or Fudgay b 1856, Wigan, Lancs, wife neither seem to be in the 1901 Census (not as Tudgay)* |
Joseph H Tudgy b 1856 d 30/10/1876 buried Abney Park (see below) ? father of the orphans William and John see below |
* There is one Fudgay in 1901 but the name is James Fudgay, age 74, living in Warminster - another misspelling?
Frederi(c)k Tudgay (1841-1921), and John L Tudgay marine painters of London, painted singly and together [sample, web link to source "I. Tudgay" painted the Barque Scotland in 1851 [see web link to source]. The "I" may well be John (as above), as that was the style of the day for "J" if written with a median dot.
Commercial Road, Limehouse and Wapping are adjacent areas in the Docklands, obvious places for John & Frederick to have been able to paint ships. St Nicholas Cole Abbey, 114 Queen Victoria St., EC4, London, is near St Pauls and the first church rebuilt by Sir Christopher Wren information link
Abney Park Cemetery, London (Hackney-Stoke Newington-Dalston) web link to source
| Name | Date | Age | Burial | Section | Index |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Emily Tudgey | 23 May 1885 | 61y | 076904 | I09 | 3S05 |
| Joshua Tudgey | 02 Dec 1857 | 28y | 019487 | C04 | 1S09 |
| Joseph H Tudgy | 30 Oct 1876 | 20y | 059988 | E08 | 2S11 |
Possibly sons of Joseph H Tudgy listed in the 1881 Census
William Tudgay, b 1873, Romford, Essex, a scholar, living at South
Weald, Essex, as a lodger with Joseph Little, b 1832, at Wight
Rothing, Essex, married, farm labourer
John Tudgay, b 1876, Romford, Essex, lodger, Essex - possibly the
John Tudgay, age 27, born in London, and living in Carlton, Nottingham,
in the 1901 Census, as a Railway Foreman (see also the St German's family,
then of Paddington, London).
Presumably these brothers were orphans, as no parents were in Romford
1901 Census for West Ham, London
Miscellaneous London records of 1901
Sarah Tudgay, aged 21, born Frome, Somerset, occupation
housemaid domestic, at Elgin Avenue, Paddington - she was a daughter of
Isaac John Tudgay, living in Tuckmarsh, Somerset, in 1901
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Transient Gloucestershire records (transient) - Dyrham & Hinton in
1881 and Othery, Somerset in 1901
A list of Gloucestershire names in the 17th and 18th Century, taken from
the volumes by Ralph Bigland and his record of names by Graham Thomas. [web
link to source] has Tudgey in Wotton-under-Edge, Gloucestershire.
That was Thomas Tudgey -
Link and his son, John, christened there on 13/05/1706 and Samuel
christened there in 1729.
In the 1881 Census a single family
appeared headed by John Tudgay (john1842dean), living in Dyrham
& Hinton, Gloucs; John was recorded as born in Dean, Gloucs, 1841,
a dairyman/agricultural labourer; there is no Dean in Gloucestershire, the
probable village is on the main Frome road east of Shepton Mallet, in our
"homeland area".
The 1901 Census, however, shows this family's stay in
Gloucestershire was transient, as they were living in Othery, Somerset.
Othery is some 21 miles southwest of Shepton Mallet
Map of main
Wiltshire/Somerset area. Note that Alfred was born in Dyrham,
Gloucestershire.
John Tudgay, b 1841, Gloucs, Head; in 1901, he aged 59, was
recorded as born in Dean(e), Somerset, occupation Dairyman
Jane Tudgay, b 1839, Rimpton, Somerset; in 1901, she was aged 62,
born in Rimpton Somerset, occupation Dairywoman
George Tudgay, b 1871, Thorne Coffin, Somerset, son; not in 1901
Census there or anywhere else
Jane Tudgay, b 1873, Othery, Somerset, daughter; not in 1901
Census
Caroline Tudgay, b 1875, Othery, Somerset, daughter; not in 1901
Census, although there is a Caroline, aged 20, birthplace unknown, Census
place not given, a Dairyman's daughter.
Henry Tudgay, b 1876, ?Othery, Somerset, son; in 1901 Census, aged
28, born in South Othery, occupation Dairyman
William Tudgay, b 1877, Chilton Trinity, Somerset, son; in 1901
Census, aged 24, born in Chilton Trinity, Somerset; occupation Dairyman
Louisa Tudgay, b 1878, Chilton Trinity, Somerset, daughter; in
1901 Census, aged 23, occupation Dairywoman
Alfred Tudgay, b 1881, Dyrham, Gloucs, son; in 1901 Census, aged
20, born in Dyrham, Gloucestershire; emigrated to Canada
,
died in World War I, see below.
In the 1901 Census there appears Rose Tudgay, aged 28, born in Othery, presumably the wife or widow of one of the sons.
Those who died in the First World War
| TUDGAY | Albert | Driver | R.A.S.C. | Frome | |
| TUDGAY | Alfred | Private | Canadian Exped. Force | Othery | |
| TUDGAY | Theodore Frank | Private | Somerset L.I. | Salisbury | |
| TUDGAY | William Walter | Private | Somerset L.I. | West Lydford |
From: "Dale Lidbury"
To: "Roy-Val"
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Frome] Frome's Fallen Heroes
Hi Val
There are two TUDGAY's in the book:-
TUDGAY Albert
Driver. T4/110349. Army Service Corps
Drowned at sea. 2nd June 1917 age 40
Driver Albert Tudgay was born at Kingston Deverill, Wiltshire, the son of
Thomas and Eliza Tudgay, of Kingston Deverill, Wiltshire, and husband of
Sarah Ann Tudgay of 48 West Woodlands, Frome. Albert drowned at sea from
the Hired Transport Ship 'Cameronian'. For fifteen years previous he
worked for a Miss Pickford, of Frome as a carter, and had joined the army
early 1915, training for 12 months in Yorkshire, before going out with
mule transport to Salonika, where he had been since January 1917. Albert
was married for 17 years, and left four sons and a daughter aged between 5
and 16 years old. He is commemorated on the Chatby Memorial, Egypt. His
name appears on the Frome War memorial.
TUDGAY Theodore Frank
Private. 28994. 7th Battalion Prince Albert's (Somerset Light Infantry)
Killed in Action 26th March 1918 aged around 23.
Private Theodore Frank Tudgay was born in Salisbury, Wiltshire, and was
the son of William and Eliza Tudgay of 7 Hussey's Almshouses, Castle
Street, Salisbury, Wiltshire. Theodore was well known in the Frome area,
and worked as a gardener for Mr. H.S. Davy, of Somerleaze, Frome, and
joined the army three years before he met his death, when he was 20 years
old. He went out to France in early 1917, and in July of 1917 was wounded,
and spent four months in hospital. He is buried at Foreste Communal
Cemetery, Aisne, France. Memorial 23. His name does not appear on the
Frome War Memorial.
There are no grave photos for either man, but there is a photo of Theodore Frank Tudgay.
Best Wishes Dale
Charles Tudgay (?) m. Bessie Sterry, 1870 web link to source
Most information collated by Zillah Williams and Jeff Tudge
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