The father of William Tudgdy is uncertain. The strongest possibility seems to lie with a report in the Western Flying Post and Sherborne and Yeovil Mercury for 1778, which (in a summary note by Paul Mansfield, web link to source) reads "John Tudgee, father of bastard child, 20 b Frampton esc Dore" (source held in Somerset Studies Library, Taunton). Two candidates seem possible -
a) John Tudgey, a son of William Tudgey of Broad Chalk, Wiltshire, b ca 1760; that William could have been the son of William Tudgey, christened 1692 at Longbridge Deverill, seventh child of James Tudgey, m 1677 at Longbridge Deverill.
b) John Tudgey of Kingston Deverill, christened 27/08/1742, husband of Elizabeth; the eldest son of John Tudgey, christened 19/02/1694, in Longbridge Deverill, wife Priscilla; eighth child of James Tudgy/Tudgey, m 1677 at Longbridge Deverill.
BUT
In March 2003, Elaine Price, came across a list of the principal
inhabitants of Bath in 1791 at http://www.allthecotswolds.com/
- TUDGEE, James, Baker, John-street; GEORGE, Bridget,
Milliner, North Parade. These make much more sense as candidates for the
parents of William Tudgdy and Sarah George respectively. A
James Tudgay,
chr 19/03/1748, is a younger brother of John at b) above.
All three [a) John, b) John and James] have the common ancestor James Tudgey, who in turn might be a son of Robert Tudgey, christened 1607, at Milton Clevedon, Somerset.
However, it is all speculation on my part and there is a big snag - the second son of James Tudgay, chr 19/03/1748, is William Tudgey, chr. 15/10/1769. This William seems to have married Sarah Norris at Fonthill Gifford, Wiltshire, on 15/04/1793. So this answer would require two sons both called William - not impossible as sometimes the records have people who are later known by their second name!
On 26 November 1565, a Leonard Tuggie married Elina Yerbery, at Frome [Frome Marriages, 1558-1652 - web link to source]. The Tuggie family, however, does seem to be completely distinct from the Tudgee/Tudgdy/Tudgay family.
The 1766 Land Tax for Frome, under West Woodlands Tything, has William Chapman, holding three houses, tax 7s 0d, as "Late TUDGAYs".
In July 2003, Zillah came across an indenture concerning William Tudgay - this in the Dorset Record Office for Poole Parish. Their summary reads - "OVERSEERS OF THE POOR Apprenticeship Indentures FILE - William Tudgay to Thomas Donnison of Whitby, Yorkshire - ref. PE/PL/OV 3/209 - date: 20 Jun 1791". Zillah wrote - "In 1791 William TUDGAY of Poole aged 13? and being a poor boy of the parish, was apprenticed by William Hayward and John Coutts (hard to read) overseers of the Poor of the parish, to Thomas Domcion (?? very hard to decipher) in Whitby". Purely conjecturally on my part - Our William Tudgdy would have been ca 13 at the time, appears possibly to have been born out of wedlock, and hence, may have been an orphan (or at least without a supportive father); it would make sense for him to be in the poorhouse at Poole, if he was born at Frampton, near Dorchester. Then, however, did he go to Whitby? Or did he work locally for a Whitby company (marine?), say, in Poole Harbour? We will have to see the full record.
Notes on Thomas Donnison of Durham and (presumably) a son Thomas
Donnison: (all from records at http://flambard.dur.ac.uk)
(1) Papers of the North of England Institute of Mining and Mechanical
Engineers Catalogue Ref. NRO 3410 Colliery Leases Colliery Leases and
Papers. FILE [no title] - ref. NRO 3410/Les/3/101 - date: 29 Jan 1756.
Lease of lands and coal mines at Spring Farm and Mount Farm for 21 years
from Lord Ravensworth, Edward Wortley and George Bowes to Thomas
Donnison.
(2) Marriages from the Chester-le-Street Registers (1750-1774)
have 23 Nov 1767 Thomas Donnison = Elizabeth Lax.
In the Church Commissioners, Durham records
(3) Counterpart Leases 1743 - (261982) 28 September 1743 Thomas
Donnison Potter Raw Closes; (261983) 28 September 1743 Thomas
Donnison Tenement at Monkwearmouth.
(4) In the Baker Baker papers - 30 April 1751 (1) John Ellison,
William Lambe, Robert Catcheside, Thomas Donnison and William
Peareth, 5 of the Trustees for putting into execution an Act for repairing
the High Road from the City of Durham to the Tyne Bridge. (2) George Baker
of Chester Deanery, Esq, and John Doe. Licence of (1) to (2) and their
families and servants to pass toll-free through the turnpike gates at
Sunniside and Chester for one year from 2 May next.
(5) Bonds c.1623-c.1770 - CCB B/138/10. (221534). 23rd November
1754 Bond for Debt of £500 to the Bishop of Durham by Thomas
Donnison of Gateshead. Other - 10/40.
(6) The Consistory Court Papers - Kirsop v Huntley (et al.) 1783 -
promoter: Mary Kirsop (heretofore Wilson), wife of John Kirsop of
Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, linen draper (niece and legatee of
deceased) defendants: John Huntley and Thomas Laybourn of Gateshead,
Durham County, gentlemen (executors of deceased) relating to: goods of
Thomas Donnison of Gateshead, Durham County, gent (deceased).
backward link to Kingston Deverill
Map of the Somerset/Wiltshire homeland of the Tudgay families
| John Gethyn wife Mary |
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| Bridget Gethyn b 1745 |
m 18/11/1769 St Peter & St Paul, Bath |
Thomas George | |||
| Bath residents in 1791 | James Tudgee Baker John Street |
V V V |
Bridget George Milliner North Parade |
Source http://www.allthecotswolds.com/ |
|
| daughter | an elder brother, two elder sisters and one younger sister | ||||
| Whatley is a little distance east of Leigh on Mendip and Coleford is just to the north | slightly conflicting info has m 17/08/1800 at Whatley and died at Coleford described on Isaac's wedding certificate as a Servant |
William Tudgdy 1777-1824 b Leigh upon Mendip m 17/08/1800 at Leigh on Mendip buried 27/05/1824 at Kilmersdon |
Sarah George b 19/11/1777 at St James', Bath, Somerset alive after 1841 |
Family legend (Abersychan Tudgays) has five or six sons quarrelling and going their separate ways (this seems wrong) |
|
| lived at Leigh on Mendip and Coleford | |||||
| Fanny Tudgdy b 1801 |
Jeremiah Tudgdy b 1806 Leigh on Mendip d after 1881 |
John Tudgdy/Tudgay b 12/12/1810 at Leigh on Mendip |
Ann Tudgdy b 29/08/1812 |
Isaac Tudgee/Tudgay b 20/08/1815 at Coleford Green d 9.12.1889 |
Elizabeth Tudgay b 07/06/1818 at Coleford |
| m Daniel Hobbs [b ca Jan 1801, Leigh in Mendip] 25/12/1823 at Kilmersdon; had 3 children Sarah Hobbs b ca 1828 Mary Hobbs b ca 1833 Charles Hobbs b ca 1835 (no more known at present) |
m Mary Dodd 08/06/1827 at St Michael's, Bath ? moved to Frome? children William Tudgay b/chr 08/04/1832 at Bath Abbey [1. below] Frederick Tudgay b 27/09/1835 at Bath Abbey [2. below] Charles Tudgay/Tudgee b 07/05/1837 at Bath Abbey [3. below] ? Albert Tudgee b ca 1844 in Bath alive in 1901 [4. below] |
m Sarah Smith of Mells, near Frome coachman later moving to St Germans, Cornwall Coachman to the Earl of St Germans last male descendant died in 1992 *** |
m John Whitcomb 25/12/1830 at Kilmersdon, Somerset |
m Eliza Smith 1820 - 13.2.1890 of Mells at St. Peter & St. Paul, Bath, 19 March 1838 Moved to Talywain/Abersychan ca. 1846 Name as Tudgay on son's birth certificate For most see and this branch gave rise to the |
m Henry Hamblin 23/04/1836 at Kilmersdon eight children [lived in Coleford] Eliza Hamblin b 1836 Frederick Hamblin b 1839 Emma Hamblin b 1840 (at Luckington, Soms) Isaac Hamblin b ca 1841 Abraham Hamblin b ca 1843 Jacob Hamblin b ca 1846 Sarah Hamblin b ca 1848 William Hamblin b ca Jul 1850 |
Note - a William Tudgay m Sarah Hooper, 24 Jun 1819, at St John's Frome (web link to source) but this seems a different William; see Frome families.
Migrations
There seems to have been a considerable emigration from the
Wiltshire/Somerset area in the middle of the 19th Century. In my web
browsing, for instance, the history of the
Forward
Family of Mere, Wiltshire, England, which includes a reference to
Elizabeth Tudgay of Kingston Deverill who married Thomas Brimble in 1799,
describes migrations to Australia and into South Wales. The latter
includes Charles Forward, son of James FORWARD & Sarah. christened 29
Nov 1827 in Mere, Wiltshire, England, died 14 Jan 1919 in Abersychan,
Monmouthshire, Wales, buried Jan 1919 in Varteg, Monmouthshire, Wales.
William Forward, 1859-1933, son of Charles, was born in Abersychan and
died at Varteg, his widow Naomi, neé Biggs, later emigrated to Salt
Lake City, USA, to join her daughter, Mable Biggs. Mable with her husband
and family were all members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day
Saints prior to emigrating.
Descendants of Jeremiah Tudgay, b 1806 at Leigh on Mendip
The 1841 Census had only one Tudgay living in Bath web link to source , so it seems the family left Bath for Lyncombe & Widcombe, Somerset (see 1881 Census below) after the birth of Charles.
1. William Tudgee, chr 08/04/1832, at Abbey of St Peter & St
Paul, Bath - possibly, the William Tudgey who m Maria Clements,
1850, in St Peter's Church of England, Melbourne, Victoria - contact Peter
Davis (prdavis@dingoblue.net.au)
below
2. Frederic Tudgee, chr 27/09/1835, at Abbey of St Peter & St Paul, Bath
There is no Frederick Tudgay in the 1881 Census but there is a record of a Frederick Tudgay, Private 1st Battalion 8th Foot (The King's) Monmouthshire Regt., on the medal roll for the Indian Mutiny 1857-1859 web link to source; another link has Pte Frederick Tudgay - killed 10 October 1857, 1st Bn 8th FOOT (King's Liverpool Regiment)
Family information from Jane Tudgee, August 2003.
| Charles Tudgee b 1836, Bath chr 07/05/1837, at Abbey of St Peter & St Paul, Bath d before 1901 (CTudgee0) |
m St Anne's, Bath 25/12/1860 |
m Ellen Mendum b 1837 in Bath alive in 1901 (CTudgee spouse) |
||
| lived in Bath, Somerset | ||||
| Mary Jane Tudgee b 15/10/1861 |
Charles William Tudgee b 02/02/1864 in 1881 Census as born 1865 at Bath |
Walter Thomas Tudgee b 12/05/1872 in 1881 census as Thomas, b 1872 at Bath |
Henry George Tudgay b 06/07/1874 In 1881 Cenus as born in Bath |
William Tudgay b 08/10/1877 |
| not in 1881 Census (CTudgee1) |
not in 1901 Census (CTudgee2) |
in 1901 Census as Walter b 1872 Bath (CTudgee3) |
in 1901 Census (CTudgee4) |
in Bath in 1901 Census (CTudgee5) |
| no issue | no issue | V V |
no issue | never married and stayed at home |
| V V |
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| m 05/02/1898 | Sarah Ann Gant | |||
| Ellen Blanche Tudgee b 12/1899 d 22/02/1902 |
Walter Stanley Tudgee b 02/08/1900 |
Wilfred George Tudgee b 21/04/1903 |
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The 1881 Census of Somerset
2 Arrow Place, Lyncombe & Widcombe, Somerset
Jeremiah Tudgee, b 1806, Coleford, Wiltshire, Head, Journeyman
Butcher, living at - now this area is a central suburb of Bath
Mary Tudgee, b 1812, Bradford, Wiltshire, wife
3 Farmers Terrace, Lyncombe & Widcombe, Somerset
Charles Tudgee, b 1836, Bath, Somerset, Head, Journeyman Butcher
Ellen Tudgee, b 1837, Bath, Somerset, wife
Charles Tudgee, b 1865, Bath, son
Thomas Tudgee, b 1872, Bath, son
Henry Tudgee, b 1875, Bath, son
William Tudgee, b 1877, Bath, son
The 1901 Census has the following all born and living in Bath
Ellen Tudgee, age 63
Sons - Walter Tudgee, age 29
Henry Tudgee, age 27
William Tudgee, age 26
Also - Sarah Tudgee, age 34, the wife of Walter Thomas
Nellie Tudgee, age 2
Walter Tudgee, age 8 months
Post-1901
Walter Stanley Tudgee married Doris Jones, b 09/06/1928.
Wilfred George Tudgee married Gwendoline Clark, b 16/01/1932
They had two sons, Peter K Tudgee and Robert Tudgee
Peter (of Southampton, on the Map
of UK Tudgay family members in 2001 AD) has a daughter, Jane
Tudgee and a son, Adrian Tudgee - the latter has a son, Harry
Tudgee.
Robert has two daughters.
4. Albert Tudgee, age 57, born in Bath, living ??, Butcher & Journeyman (no other records than 1901 Census)
Origins not certain but strongest candidate seems to be William
Tudgee, b 1832, the third son of Jeremiah Tudgee of Leigh on
Mendip
William Tudgey, m Maria Clements, 1850, in St Peter's Church of England, Melbourne, Victoria - contact Peter Davis (prdavis@dingoblue.net.au).
More information may be in "Early Families of Shepparton" Book 1 (source); in the Goulburn Valley, Victoria, Australia.
Children
A Richard TUDGEY, married Harriet Henderson (1851-1903) in 1881 source
Beverley Ann Tudgey m William Donald Sims, ca 1950?, in Gunneda, New South Wales web link to source
Modern Tudgey family is of Werris Creek, New South Wales [see school website].
There is a Tudgey Street in Wangaratta, Victoria [web link to source].
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